If you need assistance, please send an email to forum at 4hv dot org. To ensure your email is not marked as spam, please include the phrase "4hv help" in the subject line. You can also find assistance via IRC, at irc.shadowworld.net, room #hvcomm.
Support 4hv.org!
Donate:
4hv.org is hosted on a dedicated server. Unfortunately, this server costs and we rely on the help of site members to keep 4hv.org running. Please consider donating. We will place your name on the thanks list and you'll be helping to keep 4hv.org alive and free for everyone. Members whose names appear in red bold have donated recently. Green bold denotes those who have recently donated to keep the server carbon neutral.
Special Thanks To:
Aaron Holmes
Aaron Wheeler
Adam Horden
Alan Scrimgeour
Andre
Andrew Haynes
Anonymous000
asabase
Austin Weil
barney
Barry
Bert Hickman
Bill Kukowski
Blitzorn
Brandon Paradelas
Bruce Bowling
BubeeMike
Byong Park
Cesiumsponge
Chris F.
Chris Hooper
Corey Worthington
Derek Woodroffe
Dalus
Dan Strother
Daniel Davis
Daniel Uhrenholt
datasheetarchive
Dave Billington
Dave Marshall
David F.
Dennis Rogers
drelectrix
Dr. John Gudenas
Dr. Spark
E.TexasTesla
eastvoltresearch
Eirik Taylor
Erik Dyakov
Erlend^SE
Finn Hammer
Firebug24k
GalliumMan
Gary Peterson
George Slade
GhostNull
Gordon Mcknight
Graham Armitage
Grant
GreySoul
Henry H
IamSmooth
In memory of Leo Powning
Jacob Cash
James Howells
James Pawson
Jeff Greenfield
Jeff Thomas
Jesse Frost
Jim Mitchell
jlr134
Joe Mastroianni
John Forcina
John Oberg
John Willcutt
Jon Newcomb
klugesmith
Leslie Wright
Lutz Hoffman
Mads Barnkob
Martin King
Mats Karlsson
Matt Gibson
Matthew Guidry
mbd
Michael D'Angelo
Mikkel
mileswaldron
mister_rf
Neil Foster
Nick de Smith
Nick Soroka
nicklenorp
Nik
Norman Stanley
Patrick Coleman
Paul Brodie
Paul Jordan
Paul Montgomery
Ped
Peter Krogen
Peter Terren
PhilGood
Richard Feldman
Robert Bush
Royce Bailey
Scott Fusare
Scott Newman
smiffy
Stella
Steven Busic
Steve Conner
Steve Jones
Steve Ward
Sulaiman
Thomas Coyle
Thomas A. Wallace
Thomas W
Timo
Torch
Ulf Jonsson
vasil
Vaxian
vladi mazzilli
wastehl
Weston
William Kim
William N.
William Stehl
Wesley Venis
The aforementioned have contributed financially to the continuing triumph of 4hv.org. They are deserving of my most heartfelt thanks.
Registered Member #2848
Joined: Tue May 04 2010, 05:19AM
Location:
Posts: 44
I've been a lurker on this board for many months now and I've posted a few questions regarding my coil gun I'm working on. I've learned a lot and wish to thank everyone who has helped me. I'm sorry if I've been a little non responsive in the past.
Anyhow, my coil gun is working amazingly right now. I've added a second capacitor bank, got the scr switching working marvelously, improved the charging circuits, and put shielding around my coil.
My coil is made of 65 meters of 25 gauge speaker wire, with 1300 turns or so. The coils resistance was 7ohms which was way, way too much. So I decided to cut my wire in half, solder the two halves in series, and rewind my coil.
I did this because I wanted to reduce the resistance while keeping the same number of turns. It worked. My coil resistance is now 1.8 ohms instead of 7 ohms. I am receiving much more velocity from my projectiles as well.
I was wondering if there was any downside to what I did, and if it would be worth my trouble to double up the wire again to reduce the resistance even more. This would result in basically 4 coils wired in series all in the same space.
Registered Member #1208
Joined: Thu Jan 03 2008, 05:30PM
Location: Chesterland, OH
Posts: 154
aarpcard wrote ...
solder the two halves in series, and rewind my coil.
You mean parallel. You were correct in the thread title.
Doing this actually halves the number of turns, while quartering the resistance and halving the inductance. If we ignore inductance, you theoretically quadruple current, and thus double the peak field strength, while quartering the duration. This is just like using larger wire. Depending on your exact setup, cutting again could either increase or decrease performance. In the worst case, it could damage your SCR.
Registered Member #2848
Joined: Tue May 04 2010, 05:19AM
Location:
Posts: 44
Ok thanks for the reply. I'm thinking about adding a dual coil setup triggered by an i/r sensor. Can anyone recommend me a good sensor circuit that would get the job done?
aarp, I've played around with some SCR switching configurations triggered with IR sensors. I was wondering if you could share how your SCR works. For my current model I've sidelined the SCR switch with high current mechanical relays with are more straight forward.
The IR sensors are working perfectly with the mechanical relays and in bench testing it appears that the relays handle the 1200+V just fine, but I know they will wear out eventually and I really want to use SCRs eventually.
Registered Member #1875
Joined: Sun Dec 21 2008, 06:36PM
Location:
Posts: 635
Coils in parallel will raise the current. This will be harder on your SCR. They will also shorten the pulse length.
You'll have to find the "sweet spot" for your design. If you think your device is "working amazingly" then maybe you should stick with what you have now.
What is the pulse rating of your SCR? What is the voltage of your capacitor bank? You should aim for a coil resistance equal to the voltage of your bank divided by the pulsed current rating of your SCRs.
If you did the paralleling thing again, you would end up with slightly under .5 ohms, which is around the value most coil guns I've seen use. That's not to say it's best, though.
This site is powered by e107, which is released under the GNU GPL License. All work on this site, except where otherwise noted, is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.5 License. By submitting any information to this site, you agree that anything submitted will be so licensed. Please read our Disclaimer and Policies page for information on your rights and responsibilities regarding this site.