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IGBT or SCR for coilgun..?

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TechNerd
Thu Feb 04 2010, 08:04PM Print
TechNerd Registered Member #2289 Joined: Thu Aug 13 2009, 02:49PM
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Hi all

I'm about to buy something to activate my coilgun (spec: cap =20mF - 400Vdc only using 325Vdc on them though)

and i must say i'm a little confused what is best IGBT's or SCR's...?
I imagine the peak current when "ignited" to be of some concern but then again it's only in a worst case scenario 1ms so how big of a deal is it..?

hope to get some good and educating replies as always...
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Hon1nbo
Fri Feb 05 2010, 12:13AM
Hon1nbo Registered Member #902 Joined: Sun Jul 15 2007, 08:17PM
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it depends on your situation - if you want to try to control the pulse (e.g. adjust duration to turn it off at an optimal time) then an IGBT is better, but for a basic or high current gun an SCR is better, but once it's on you can't turn it off so if your pulse is too long for your coil/projectile combination it will reduce efficiency.

-Jimmy
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rp181
Fri Feb 05 2010, 01:07AM
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Keep in mind that SCR's for a given current rating are much cheaper than IGBT's with similar pulse ratings. As said, IGBT's allow you to turn off a pulse.
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TechNerd
Mon Feb 08 2010, 09:19AM
TechNerd Registered Member #2289 Joined: Thu Aug 13 2009, 02:49PM
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hi agian

I've fund this IGBT http://www.pwrx.com/pwrx/docs/cm500ha_34a.pdf
is it worth buying..?

my coilgun using 350v - 20mF caps = 1.2kJ | coil resistance = 0.5Ohm | max current spike = approx 700A

thanks
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rp181
Mon Feb 08 2010, 12:59PM
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What price can you get it at?

It will work for a coilgun load, keep the coil big though.
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TechNerd
Mon Feb 08 2010, 04:41PM
TechNerd Registered Member #2289 Joined: Thu Aug 13 2009, 02:49PM
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don't know the exact price but Ebay is a friend for us DIY's... cheesey
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TechNerd
Wed Feb 24 2010, 08:28PM
TechNerd Registered Member #2289 Joined: Thu Aug 13 2009, 02:49PM
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just bought the CM500HA-34A for 5GBP - hopeing is't working... (at that price it might not be..!)

looking forward to test it tommorrow at work.. cheesey

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Mycologist
Fri Apr 02 2010, 10:58PM
Mycologist Registered Member #2413 Joined: Sat Oct 03 2009, 08:27PM
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How did this turn out? I've got a bank of very similar specs, but I used some 70A or so SCRs, which got rather hot after a few shots, I'd like to see how that IGBT held up in comparison, seeing that it looked pretty apt for the job!
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