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Optical switching/triggering (for a novice)

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mogallin
Sat Dec 27 2008, 10:12PM Print
mogallin Registered Member #1883 Joined: Thu Dec 25 2008, 01:58PM
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rp181 said in another post that optical switching was simple. Not simple enough im afraid since i havent got the slightest idea how the different components he mentioned works,or what they do... (these are the components he mentioned: "LM339 IC, 2 resistors, and the photodetectors")
...except for the resistors maybe :)

Could someone mybe explain what they do or how they are used?
And maybe even how to put them together to form this nice little optical trigger?
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badastronaut
Sat Dec 27 2008, 10:23PM
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Have you read the datasheet for the devices? Wikipedia on photodetector will get you some info on how to use one.
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mogallin
Sat Dec 27 2008, 10:38PM
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Thanks, I'll check there!

(Sometimes i feel so dumb. I've been so busy checking coilgunsites that i forgot old dear wikipedia...)

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rp181
Sun Dec 28 2008, 12:41AM
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sorry i didnt get the stuff of on my site, the server went down and i burned a couple of IC's due to bad insulation on a jumper. LM339 is a comparator. It takes two voltages and "compares" them. Depending on this, the output goes high or low. Photodetectors vary there resistance based on the amount of light. ile get it up tomorrow
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El_Roberto
Sun Dec 28 2008, 03:37AM
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About how fast can this work upto? Because I was originally going to use a microprocesor but I think it might be easier to go with this, I expect it the round to be going faster than about 50m/s
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mogallin
Sun Dec 28 2008, 09:38AM
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Thanks once again.

El_Roberto to somewhat answer your question killah573 wrote this in another thread
( Link2 )

"Like rp181 said, you should use a phototransistor (or a photodiode). A photocell is simply too slow, especially when you build higher power, higher speed coilguns. A phototransistor should be fast enough for most applications, but the fastest coilguns will need the even-faster photodiode."

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rp181
Sun Dec 28 2008, 04:54PM
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Here, look at the "4 detector circuit". This is the basic thing.
Link2
The one im doing uses additional IC's, as i wanted to have a programmable delay for fine tuning.
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mogallin
Tue Dec 30 2008, 07:01PM
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ive been looking around for suitable diodes and comparators. Would there be any important differences between a DIL and a SO comparator? Guess these things mean something to someone with a bit of kowledge about this sort of things...

btw thanks for the nice link rp181
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rp181
Tue Dec 30 2008, 07:47PM
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I think those are packages. Make sure its not SMD unless you can use those.

EDIT: looked it up. DIL is the one you want. SO is a surface mount package.
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mogallin
Tue Dec 30 2008, 09:19PM
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ok, thanks.
I think this will be all help i need, at least for the optical switches.
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