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Killa-X
Sun Sept 21 2008, 04:30PM Print
Killa-X Registered Member #1643 Joined: Mon Aug 18 2008, 06:10PM
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I don't even know the formula to figure this out but...

I was following a design that was able to shoot through a coffee can using only 22 AWG wire, 30 or 20 mm wide, and 12 layers. His videos shows it works. The problem was, I didn't have much. So I ripped wire from a electromagnetic off a old motor, guessing its 24 guage maybe. Whats the best length and layers for it?

Capacitors: 400V 470uf currently testing around with 4 in parallel
Barrel Diameter: Simple plastic straw...Which is what... 6.5mm or 8...

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guitardude012
Mon Sept 22 2008, 09:22PM
guitardude012 Registered Member #968 Joined: Fri Aug 24 2007, 04:54PM
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If you are actually firing 1880uF at almost 400V you should use less turns of a thicker wire

That wire actually looks like 20-22AWG compared to the IC pins.

With that combination you have about 1 ohm of coil resistance, peak current less than 250A. Also, you will not be underdamped so you will most likely experience serious braking due to a ~8ms pulse(though this will make protection diode requirements easier).

If you increase wire diameter, you will need to choose a stronger barrel.
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Killa-X
Tue Sept 23 2008, 01:17AM
Killa-X Registered Member #1643 Joined: Mon Aug 18 2008, 06:10PM
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guitardude012 wrote ...

If you are actually firing 1880uF at almost 400V you should use less turns of a thicker wire

That wire actually looks like 20-22AWG compared to the IC pins.

With that combination you have about 1 ohm of coil resistance, peak current less than 250A. Also, you will not be underdamped so you will most likely experience serious braking due to a ~8ms pulse(though this will make protection diode requirements easier).

If you increase wire diameter, you will need to choose a stronger barrel.

Yeah just keep in mind that the coil in the back there, is just junk wire. like not much. I was going to buy maybe 20 guage, and build what the tutorial said. I guess the guy just used 4, 400V 470 uf capacitors, a straw-diameter inner core, outer core was just 30mm wide, 12 layers. and he filmed a video if it doing 5 inches away, shooting into a coffee can. -- Currently my set goal.
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