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Tonight my coil blew up... sorta

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w1vlf
Fri Feb 29 2008, 01:45AM Print
w1vlf Registered Member #1329 Joined: Mon Feb 18 2008, 07:31PM
Location: Harwinton Connecticut
Posts: 53
There are some incredible forces at work in this magnetic gun.
Even at low powers I could see the coil contract.
After some reading I see that guys use glue on each layer to secure the coil.
Any movement has to be a a waste of energy.
Here is what I tried.
Since my coil was already built, I applied CA glue to the outside of the coil. The very thin mixture was used and it seemed to seep in well.
After the coil seemed saturated, I applied the acellerant.
When the coil finally cooled down it appeared to be fairly rigid. The next day I applied a couple of coats of epoxy to the outside.
Tonight I tried the coil.. Seemed to work great, so I got brave and raised the voltage to 300, then 400 volts.
At 400 volts the epoxy shattered and shrapneled around the lab.
The coil needs to be more rigid.

Man.. How do you guys with the really big stuff hold your coils together???
Back to the drawing board to build a tighter coil.

Have I ever got a lot to learn..

Signed Coiless in Connecticut!

PauLC
W1VLF
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Andyman
Fri Feb 29 2008, 06:16AM
Andyman Registered Member #1083 Joined: Mon Oct 29 2007, 06:16PM
Location: Upland, California
Posts: 256
Use gorilla glue, or any polyurethane glue. It won't shatter like epoxy, since its SLIGHTLY flexible and not hard as rock. The harder it is, the more brittle. But just because it's not as hard doesn't mean it's not as strong.
This is what I use and its a heck of a lot cheaper than gorilla glue, since it's not name brand.
956452reg
Its called Elmers Probond ultimate glue.
You can get it as OSH or home depot, or wherever.
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w1vlf
Fri Feb 29 2008, 02:38PM
w1vlf Registered Member #1329 Joined: Mon Feb 18 2008, 07:31PM
Location: Harwinton Connecticut
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Hi Andy,
OK I have some of that Gorrila glue. Glad to know Elmers is the same for a lot less money.
That stuff works with water, or at least you need to wet one side of the 2 components being glued.
I wonder if a mixture of say 50% water and 50% glue would be watery enough to soak into the coil but still harder.

Thanks for the advice.
PauLC
W1VLF
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Andyman
Fri Feb 29 2008, 04:56PM
Andyman Registered Member #1083 Joined: Mon Oct 29 2007, 06:16PM
Location: Upland, California
Posts: 256
Just get one of those spray bottles, fill it with water and spray the wire every layer you wind.
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Electroholic
Fri Feb 29 2008, 09:58PM
Electroholic Registered Member #191 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 02:01AM
Location: Esbjerg Denmark
Posts: 720
white elmer's glue is PVA based and doesn't work on non porous surfaces, you need the yellow polyurethane based stuff.
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