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IamSmooth
Wed Nov 03 2010, 12:32AM Print
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I am trying to make an isolated gate drive for an IGBT. I was hoping to do this without using a bootstrap chip. I have a variable duty signal input to a TC4420 and TC4429 gate drive chip. The output goes through a 1uf capacitor to a GDT. What I find is if the duty is 50% half of the output signal is above 0v and half is below, which is good for turning the gate on and off. For a 15v input, I get +/-15v. If the duty goes below or above 50% the signal shifts up or down, causing almost the entire waveform to be above zero or below. I wind up with the signal going from 0 to -15v, or 0 to 15v. I guess the average voltages above and below zero must stay equal.

How do I fix this so the maximum and minimum voltages are the same? Is it possible or should I just get the bootstrap chip?


1288744366 190 FT0 Gatedrive
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ScotchTapeLord
Wed Nov 03 2010, 12:48AM
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If the output of a transformer were uneven, that would imply that the core is heading for saturation (I think this is called flux walking?). I've used GDT with slight adjustment to duty cycle, but too much and like you said, it causes uneven voltages. GDTs, like any ideal transformer, only pass AC without saturating. You'll hear people say GDTs don't like uneven duty cycle, and this is why. I don't know what your application is but I chose to stick with GDTs and switch to frequency modulation rather than pulse width modulation.
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IamSmooth
Wed Nov 03 2010, 04:12AM
IamSmooth Registered Member #190 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 12:00AM
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For proper isolation for one of these chips

Link2

does the supply to the signal and the supply that charges the gate have to be separate?

For my application the high voltage is isolated with a floating ground.
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Adam Munich
Wed Nov 03 2010, 04:37AM
Adam Munich Registered Member #2893 Joined: Tue Jun 01 2010, 09:25PM
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Why not go for a "homemade" approach? Optoisolators and transistors are very cheap. You can even make an optoisolator with an led, phototransistor and shrink tube if you don't have one.
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Luca
Wed Nov 03 2010, 09:56AM
Luca Registered Member #2481 Joined: Mon Nov 23 2009, 03:07PM
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IamSmooth wrote ...

I guess the average voltages above and below zero must stay equal.


Right, the average value of the GDT output must be zero (DC component does not pass the transformer), so if you reduce the waveform duty-cycle you will obtain uneven positive and negative gate values.

Regards,

Luca
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IamSmooth
Wed Nov 03 2010, 11:27AM
IamSmooth Registered Member #190 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 12:00AM
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I have optoisolators. How would I go about getting an isolated +/-15v drive signal to the gate without using a gdt or bootstrap? Is there a link I can look up?
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Electroholic
Wed Nov 03 2010, 11:54AM
Electroholic Registered Member #191 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 02:01AM
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You could separate power and signal delivery. like this Link2

Depending on speed and gate capacitance, you might be able to get away with one of these?
Link2
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IamSmooth
Wed Nov 03 2010, 01:31PM
IamSmooth Registered Member #190 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 12:00AM
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does this topology allow for duties of 93%? I see a gdt.
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