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Micha0_0
Sat Oct 23 2010, 06:08PM Print
Micha0_0 Registered Member #2990 Joined: Mon Jul 12 2010, 11:22AM
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Hi guys


Some days ago i finished my 3 Phase Mot STACK...
I used 6 of my biggest MOTs
It's rectified to DC with 150 1N5408 diodes.
I feed it with 400V 3Phase power.

I'm a little bit confused because I don't use any ballast and the 16A braker doesn't switch off
But i can Arc as long as I want
After a 1,5 min long permanent arc the smallest Mot get a little bit warm (40°C)
The bigger ones are at roomtemp

And i just get 15-20cm arcs ...some people get over 40cm

Is anything wrong there?







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Arcstarter
Sat Oct 23 2010, 09:07PM
Arcstarter Registered Member #1225 Joined: Sat Jan 12 2008, 01:24AM
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I am thinking you phased them wrong. That'd be a simple fix, and it would be simple to make that mistake. I do that almost every time i hook MOTs up in series. Not because i don't know how it works, but because i don't pay attention, or i forget cheesey
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Micha0_0
Sat Oct 23 2010, 09:21PM
Micha0_0 Registered Member #2990 Joined: Mon Jul 12 2010, 11:22AM
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wrong phased ?
primary or secondary ?

how can i fix that problem ?
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ScotchTapeLord
Sun Oct 24 2010, 01:43AM
ScotchTapeLord Registered Member #1875 Joined: Sun Dec 21 2008, 06:36PM
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Can you show us how you wired it? Also, the really big arc people often use capacitors.
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Micha0_0
Sun Oct 24 2010, 09:31PM
Micha0_0 Registered Member #2990 Joined: Mon Jul 12 2010, 11:22AM
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yes i wired it how it is in the picture

Caps. yes,but many people have very big arcs just with "3phase power"




1287955913 2990 FT99229 Mot 3phase
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ubuntupokemoninc
Sun Oct 24 2010, 09:34PM
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try running 1 phase, if they are phased wrong, it should just make a tiny zapping noise, but if there phased right you will get an arc, then try the first phase with the second, then the second with the third until you get an arc.
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Micha0_0
Sun Oct 24 2010, 09:49PM
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so i should take L1 and N then L2 and N and then L3 and N ?
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monokel
Mon Oct 25 2010, 07:19PM
monokel Registered Member #2981 Joined: Thu Jul 08 2010, 01:47PM
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Isn't there an insulation problem with 3 of these 6 MOTs ?

The 3 MOTs not beeing connected to ground with one of the connectors of the secondary will have a problem. The core of them should be connected to ground; otherwise the insulation between the prim coil and the core will be overstressed. And normally (in a microwave oven), one of connectors of the sec coil is connected with the core. But it must be removed from the core, and there will be a potential difference of about 2000 V between this connector and the core - this will probably be too much for safety.
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