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I assembled ta JDM style pic programmer and there is a problem. PIC cannot be seen.

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cavemen
Fri Oct 22 2010, 01:58AM Print
cavemen Registered Member #2008 Joined: Tue Mar 03 2009, 05:11AM
Location: USA, Frederick, MD
Posts: 118
I assambled a JDM style pic programmer from
Link2

I tried WinPIC and PICpgm.
PIC pgm is better.

WinPIC tells me that the setup is ok even when the PIC is unplugged from the programmer.

PICpgm is the one that never sees PIC.

I am using PIC16F628 with some simple test code that should make a circuit blink an LED.

What should I do?

Dropping 50 bucks on a programmer ia a little bit too much for me.

The thing is that I couldn't find was the BC547B transistor.
I decided to replace that with 2n3904. (pins are backwards)
I am not sure if that can cause a problem.

I also got 2n2222 laying around. I can swap those.

Thank you.
VT

]jdm2-place.pdf[/file]
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TheMerovingian
Fri Oct 22 2010, 08:03AM
TheMerovingian Registered Member #14 Joined: Thu Feb 02 2006, 01:04PM
Location: Prato/italy
Posts: 383
Convert your JDM to a powered JDM hooking 5V to the VCC pic line (or 12V with a LM7805). I solved this problem this way (insufficient VCC power). Also the MCLR has insufficient voltage, so use a PNP transistor as follower on the MCLR line to provide 12V to MCLR pin
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cavemen
Fri Oct 22 2010, 09:25PM
cavemen Registered Member #2008 Joined: Tue Mar 03 2009, 05:11AM
Location: USA, Frederick, MD
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I have a DELL desctop. WHat do you have?
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Bjørn
Fri Oct 22 2010, 10:08PM
Bjørn Registered Member #27 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 02:20AM
Location: Hyperborea
Posts: 2058
You can get a brilliant USB programmer (PICkit 2) with built in PSU and many other features down to $25. It will save you from a lot of problems.

TheMerovingian is most likely right. Modern computers often use low voltages on the ports to save power, measure the voltages to find out.
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cavemen
Sat Oct 23 2010, 01:41AM
cavemen Registered Member #2008 Joined: Tue Mar 03 2009, 05:11AM
Location: USA, Frederick, MD
Posts: 118
I am buying one.
There are too many things that can go wrong with a self - built programmer.

An experiment should be set up, so only one variable is changed.
This is even not an experiment.
I am trying to learn how to program a PIC controller.
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Bjørn
Sat Oct 23 2010, 06:46AM
Bjørn Registered Member #27 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 02:20AM
Location: Hyperborea
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Good move. I have made a few of those simple programmers and while they can work well on some chips on some PCs there are countless things that are just waiting to go wrong.

The PICkit 2 can be upgraded for new chips over USB so it is pretty fail safe. The only thing that requires some thought is what pins to connect but once figured out it is no problem.
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Shrad
Sun Oct 24 2010, 11:26AM
Shrad Registered Member #3215 Joined: Sun Sept 19 2010, 08:42PM
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RS232 on modern laptops is 3.3V, and JDM programmer wants 5V

also, it doesn't work with pic18f µcontrollers
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cavemen
Mon Oct 25 2010, 03:46PM
cavemen Registered Member #2008 Joined: Tue Mar 03 2009, 05:11AM
Location: USA, Frederick, MD
Posts: 118
thanks
i quit the idea of using a self-built one.
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