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George Schmermund
Mon Oct 11 2010, 04:29AM Print
George Schmermund Registered Member #3304 Joined: Mon Oct 11 2010, 04:18AM
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I saw a thread on this site that was discussing a cyclotron project. I'm in the process of building a similar instrument, but with a different approach. The effort is directed toward the use of permanent magnets and a vast reduction of overall size. The materials for construction are common and need only basic hand tools. I'm calling the device a micro-cyclotron (uC).

The project has gone smoothly so far, except for the magnet/yoke assembly. These NIB N50 magnets are death-defying to work with. Once the magnets are coerced into the yoke, though, they become tame and just sit there and do their job.

I'm now working on the ion source which will be made from a 'grain of wheat' type of light bulb with the glass envelope removed.

More detailed information can be seen on the Fusor open forum:

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plazmatron
Mon Oct 11 2010, 07:39AM
plazmatron Registered Member #1134 Joined: Tue Nov 20 2007, 04:39PM
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Now that looks very cool!

I will be watching the progress of this with bated breath!
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Proud Mary
Mon Oct 11 2010, 08:26AM
Proud Mary Registered Member #543 Joined: Tue Feb 20 2007, 04:26PM
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Welcome to 4HV George! smile

The X-ray tube division of Svetlana in St Petersburg, Russia, manufacture a small betatron tube.


1286784923 543 FT98356 Svetlana Betatron


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The Svetlana device has now been incorporated into a range of portable X-ray betatrons from 2.5MeV to 7.5MeV by the British firm JME.


1286785356 543 FT98356 Mobilexraybetatron


"A report [below link] describes characteristics and parameters of small-size pulse betatrons developed by Research Institute of Introscopy at Tomsk Polytechnic University. They are used as sources of X-ray radiation but have much higher radiation energy compared to X-ray devices, and are not widely known."

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IntraWinding
Wed Oct 13 2010, 12:26AM
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Fascinating stuff!
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Adam Munich
Wed Oct 13 2010, 03:29AM
Adam Munich Registered Member #2893 Joined: Tue Jun 01 2010, 09:25PM
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That betatron tube is awesome, but why would anyone need a portable 7.5MeV x-ray source?
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Conundrum
Wed Oct 13 2010, 06:46AM
Conundrum Registered Member #96 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:37PM
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portable x-ray spectrometer maybe?

something like this would be handy for locating underground metal deposits, perhaps also for doing metallurgical analysis?

don't forget that the higher the energy the more is scattered back to the source so for something portable you want the highest energy possible.

-A

"Bother" said Pooh, as the Govt banned vacuum chambers...
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Steve Conner
Wed Oct 13 2010, 09:02AM
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They are for inspecting critical welds in huge, thick steel things, like gas pipelines and nuclear reactors. And for checking the quality of reinforced concrete, etc.

The pictures on the JME site show them X-raying the shaft of a big steam turbine to check for cracks.
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Proud Mary
Wed Oct 13 2010, 09:17AM
Proud Mary Registered Member #543 Joined: Tue Feb 20 2007, 04:26PM
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Grenadier wrote ...

That betatron tube is awesome, but why would anyone need a portable 7.5MeV x-ray source?

Mostly in industrial X-ray inspection systems, for detecting and imaging cracks, voids, faults, in dense and/or massive structures - anything from ship's propellor drive shafts, to oil pipelines, military armoured structures, railway tracks, and the blocks of reinforced concrete in the wall of a dam.

Edit: spent so long answering this that Steve has already done so, so I'll beef it up with a pic of Donald W. Kerst and his betatron-type cyclotron of 1940, which was a table top device - a manageable size for the home constructor.


Betatron 1


In the pic below, Kerst is shown meditating on his table-top betatron at the University of Illinois, with its very much more powerful descendent behind him.

Betatron 2

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