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How do I find current going through two halves of the Wheatstone bridge?

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cavemen
Mon Sept 20 2010, 03:32AM Print
cavemen Registered Member #2008 Joined: Tue Mar 03 2009, 05:11AM
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I am ashamed of myself.
How do I find current going through two halves of the Wheatstone bridge?

The current that goes through the ammeter. Got to find it in order to build a circuit correctly.
I can't get the math right.

Thank You.
1284953548 2008 FT0 Wheaton
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Sulaiman
Mon Sept 20 2010, 07:32AM
Sulaiman Registered Member #162 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 10:25AM
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When a wheatstone bridge is balanced there is no current flowing in the ammeter. Link2

The 'beauty' of a wheatstone bridge is that
it compares the ratio of the resistors on the left
with the ratio of the resistors on the right
and the actual supply voltage is unimportant,
it does not need to be stable or accurate.
And the meter only has to be sensitive, not accurate.

Is this a coursework question or are you going to make one,
in which case there are many more points to consider.
e.g.
Meter protection.
'Coarse' and 'Fine' ballance.
The choice of potentiometer.
Switched reference resistors for a wide range of measurement.
Use an ac signal for measuring capacitance and inductance
etc.

Due to electronic meters old wheatstone bridge instruments are cheap, I sold a beauty for 99p on eBay :(
So if you're going to build one, buy one off ebay for the case, meter, components etc.
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Electroholic
Mon Sept 20 2010, 10:31AM
Electroholic Registered Member #191 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 02:01AM
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I think the first step is to do two Delta-wye transformations for the upper and lower halves, amp meter is just a short circuit.
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Steve Conner
Mon Sept 20 2010, 10:55AM
Steve Conner Registered Member #30 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
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Or, find the Thevenin equivalents of the left and right arms and proceed from there.
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cavemen
Fri Sept 24 2010, 08:02AM
cavemen Registered Member #2008 Joined: Tue Mar 03 2009, 05:11AM
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It was a question that I couldn't answer when I tried to understand someone else's circuit.
Now I learned a litle more about circuits like that. The mesh currents. I found examples on how problems like this can be solved.

I didn't quite get the Norton and Thevenin theorems.
Thank you for help.
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Dr. Slack
Fri Sept 24 2010, 04:39PM
Dr. Slack Registered Member #72 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 08:29AM
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Mesh currents will get you there, but it's a little heavy duty, it's a bit of a sledgehammer to crack this fairly simple nut. Doing the Thevnin thang on the potential dividers can be done real fast on the back of an envelope

As a hint, the left-hand arm looks like a voltage of V1 * 6000 / (6000+10) coming through an impedance of (6000*10) / (6000+10), that is the voltage of the potential divider coming from an impedance of the potential divider arms in parallel.

Now you have turned the left hand arm into a stiff voltage, with a resistor in series. Do the same with the right arm. Now you have two stiff voltages connected by three series resistors. Easy peasy.
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