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THERE IS NO SUCH THINGS AS FREE ENERGY

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Fri Sept 17 2010, 10:39AM Print
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Free Energy does not exist unless you are stealing it from the from the electric company. Energy can not be created or destroyed but rather change forms through phase shifting. A hydro dam generates power from gravity and then water evaporates and is dropped as rain above dam to fall creating energy again. Is that free energy? NO... But it was a act of nature that was once unexplainable by man who thought Gods were dropping it. So because you may not understand how or where the energy is coming from. You will remain to believe it is witchcraft because this is what you have learned or been told is the law. Laws can always have amendments to as why they are able to exist. Which I have not proven yet by far nor am I making any claims to have done so. Therefore I should not be Breaking any laws here at all. I'm trying to study and research into the unknown realm using the leads I have available left by those who are no longer here and have made those claims as they did and in your eyes broke the law. So you condemn them and anyone who is looking to do any research on there behalf just in case they were not lying about the discoveries they have made claims to. I don't know it all nor do I claim to. But I know I have things to show you and the other Edisons who cut me down slandered and cursed at my post. I'm quite sure none of you Gods probably even looked, read, or watched a thing I posted polity. While you did worse then claim free energy. You tried to tear my spirit down with insults. Yet I sent You the info with out as much as saying anything rude to anyone here about who is suppose to be a role model to the rules I read. I am trying to learn I need help of other HV experimenters working with Tesla coils Pulse Forming Networks and LC Resonant Circuit pros. If you can step out of the box read what I post or send I will show you exactly what Stanley had discovered. In fact I challenge the nay sayers of 4HV.org I will bring you text book info to back up the claims of Stanley Meyer using his books with physics text books and experiments I have performed to prove validity to the point you will have to want to question and look harder at his work. It never used aluminum wire as one of the smartest people here said. It uses the Tesla coil circuit to drive a resonator circuit to the water fuel cell aka capacitor or as yours is top load his voltage intensifier is your primary and secondary of your resonator circuit. WFC does not produce H2 and O2. It produces mono-atomic H1 H1O or H1OH1. If you choose to kick me off this site cutting me down thirsting for true knowledge. And end up blocking from the resources needed, the good members of 4HV. Make Tesla himself fly out of ether from your works of magic and bite you in the BUM. For you are no better then Edison or Morgan and mock his name with the way you really have treated free thinking.

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Muttyfutty!
Fri Sept 17 2010, 11:18AM
Muttyfutty! Registered Member #2915 Joined: Fri Jun 11 2010, 10:41AM
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Free energy would only exist if the fundamental laws of physics didn't exist =="
Perhaps you should stop posting for a while, calm down.
Your posts on this forum have caused nothing but trouble!
Posting this will only aggravate people.
How long do you think your going to last in this forum?
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Dr. Slack
Fri Sept 17 2010, 12:01PM
Dr. Slack Registered Member #72 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 08:29AM
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Moderator - please move this thread to Chatting

For myself, and I suspect for most of the people who choose this site as their primary science forum, we regard the laws of themodynamics as the best framework we can use, at the energy levels we can reach, to describe how the world works.

Many posters, yourself included, sound like they are looking for forgotten and unexplained corners in accepted theories. Well, there are many controversial things about - we know that at least one of general relativity and quantum mechanics is wrong or at best an over-simplification, do quarks have a finer structure, does the Higgs exist, what form is dark matter?

What is uncontroversial, is that there aren't any unexplained corners lying about in Maxwell's equations and thermodynamics, that are accessible to energy levels, time and distance scales availble not just to us puny amateurs, or collider builders, but nature as observed so far.

What tires me is the conceit that "if I can make just a bigger bang, a brighter flash, concnetrate a bit more energy on something with some bonds in it, I might be able to access some new energy level". Well it doesn't work. You can't sneak up on the OH bond, or an electron orbiting in a hydrogen atom, with any conceivable energy or speed, and especially the ones available to us small scale tinkers.

I accept the current dogma because it has been extraordinarily well tested over a huge range of energy levels, it's still good for the LHC. I'm not saying that you should accept it. What I am saying stop annoying those of us who do accept it, stop using our bandwidth, stop writing in ranting single paragraph posts, and go find a pseudoscience site to play on.
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Fri Sept 17 2010, 12:19PM
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Until you have tried it yourself to see if it can be done or not. Never limit yourself we would've never made it to space. Why are people afraid to look is it fear of failure. Or are there things people don't want you to see. I'm sure most of you have this equipment sitting around by the dozens. Why not take 20 mins to just try things out for yourself. All you need is a 6kv 30ma NST and 3 microwave diodes a small piece of SS and another small piece of SS welding wire to see how the HV plasma effects the water under different polarity plasma field Because of the
H having a positive charge and O having a negative. When you apply several different types of energy on the water molecule it will still be water. But it will become very unstable under extreme pressure and heat. Not to mention the plasma ignition I built which when put into test chamber and increased to 125 psi the spark becomes 10 times brighter Resembling very large tig welder. This system produces 20hp 19ftlbs on 6cyl jeep engine just bolting it on. Ultrasonic humidifier shifts water into catalyst by moving electrons out of orbit throug particle oscillation. Adding mono-atomic unstable water vapor aka hydroxy does the job when mixed with the fog which has lost electrons been pulled through HV zone particle charger with photon electron accelerator and mixing with ionized ambient intake. You also have the motion placed on crank by starter til it is pushed into motion and a explosion occurs. For a 1.6l engine only 7lpm of HOH was needed after mixing it with fog. Look up Pantones plasma gas reformation. He uses 20-30% fuel and 70-80%water pre-heated with crude oil, tar, solvents using lost energy in form of heat from exhaust. Test need to be redone hydroxy gas is more volatile the Oxygen and mapp gas. The test need to be redone to calculate energy in and out with new methods of utilization. Black;light power is very much doing things the same way and only way to get a gain. Start imposing energy forces upon to achieve a change in properties of the total sum. As you add forces til you increase the water molecules energy state to critical where it is compressed and energy is released as it returns to ground state.
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HV Enthusiast
Fri Sept 17 2010, 12:22PM
HV Enthusiast Registered Member #15 Joined: Thu Feb 02 2006, 01:11PM
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Okay, you guys know the rules regarding free energy. Thread locked.
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