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max. flyback transformer primer volatge??

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coolfox
Wed Sept 15 2010, 06:19AM Print
coolfox Registered Member #3192 Joined: Mon Sept 13 2010, 03:21PM
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hello..i wonder what is the maximum primer voltage i can give to the eht transformer?
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Adam Munich
Wed Sept 15 2010, 10:53AM
Adam Munich Registered Member #2893 Joined: Tue Jun 01 2010, 09:25PM
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Usually at 40-50 volts they burn out. Sometimes there's a freak that'll survive up to 90.
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Sulaiman
Wed Sept 15 2010, 11:52AM
Sulaiman Registered Member #162 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 10:25AM
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The question is a little ambiguous,

A TV would use around 100 to 150 Vdc
which is switched across the primary of the flyback transformer (LOPT) for 20 to 30 us
which builds up primary current / magnetic flux in the core. (I = V x T / L)

When the switch (transistor) is opened (turned off) the primary voltage flies up to about 1 kV peak.

The 1 kV peak x (Secondary #turns / Primary #turns) is the typical 25 to 35 kV eht output.
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ScotchTapeLord
Wed Sept 15 2010, 12:39PM
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It depends on switching time and primary inductance. The built-in primary is built to be fed, as Sulaiman said, 100-150 VDC. Many here like to wind our own so we can use a lower voltage and higher current, though. The built-in primary has to be rated the same as the HOT that switches it, assuming they use the same safety margin, which would again agree with Sulaiman's post (~1kV peak).

I would think that the secondary would fail before the primary, since it is much more sensitive to overvoltage and overcurrent. (Overvoltage being over ~30kV, overcurrent being over 1mA, the 1 mA being a specification for all TV flybacks I've read up on, though many people push this value)

Also I'm not sure about the current capabilities of the primary, but if using the internal one, it may be a concern.
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