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HM_Murdock
Mon Aug 16 2010, 02:02AM Print
HM_Murdock Registered Member #3075 Joined: Fri Aug 06 2010, 02:44PM
Location: Athens, GA
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Got my FBT circuit working tonight!

I can draw 1/2" sparks with my home-made 12V input (converted a PC PSU) and the powerlabs circuit. It's not much, but it's a start...and my son thinks it's the coolest thing he's ever seen (even though I made him sit 10 feet away).

Next step is to wind the primary (used the built-in, since I only had really small mag wire on hand for the feedback), and make the connections properly (alligator clipped together at the moment, just to see if I could get it working), but right now I am just happy it sparks at all cheesey
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Adam Munich
Mon Aug 16 2010, 04:08AM
Adam Munich Registered Member #2893 Joined: Tue Jun 01 2010, 09:25PM
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Pics or it didn't happen.
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Mike
Mon Aug 16 2010, 05:08AM
Mike Registered Member #58 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:40AM
Location: Tri-Cities, Washington, US
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Great work! Its from this moment that you will now work towards bigger and brighter arcs until the inevitable breakdown of the entire earths atmosphere... err well, I guess maybe thats going a little overboard :) Keep it up!
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HM_Murdock
Mon Aug 16 2010, 02:16PM
HM_Murdock Registered Member #3075 Joined: Fri Aug 06 2010, 02:44PM
Location: Athens, GA
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Grenadier wrote ...

Pics or it didn't happen.


Will get pics and/or vid tonight smile

And yes, I am very excited and ready to start fine-tuning and making it bigger and better!
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HM_Murdock
Mon Aug 16 2010, 11:02PM
HM_Murdock Registered Member #3075 Joined: Fri Aug 06 2010, 02:44PM
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(apologies for the double-post...could not get the pics to upload with an edit)

Here be the proof...it's official, I am getting 1cm arcs:


1281999689 3075 FT94601 Arcs2

1281999689 3075 FT94601 Arcs1
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Adam Munich
Mon Aug 16 2010, 11:59PM
Adam Munich Registered Member #2893 Joined: Tue Jun 01 2010, 09:25PM
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Nice. With one cm sparks on pointed electrodes, it's likely that is 6000V. Other than winding your own secondary and upping the voltage, there is not much else you can do with that driver.

FTR, computer PSU's can be put in series for more volts.
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HM_Murdock
Tue Aug 17 2010, 02:12AM
HM_Murdock Registered Member #3075 Joined: Fri Aug 06 2010, 02:44PM
Location: Athens, GA
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I'm chalking this one up to a win for sure...

I did try experimenting tonight with the feedback coil (more turns, less turns, thicker wire) and even tried winding my own primary. All worked, but not as well as the built in primary and three turns of magnet wire (about 28 AWG I think) with the leads x'd over each other for the feedback.

I think I may try to build a zvs, and use that for a Jacob's ladder. Will likely look at 2 PSU's in series then (for around 24V @ 18 amps I think?).

Regardless, I am pretty happy with this for a first result smile
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Matt Edwards
Fri Aug 20 2010, 02:24PM
Matt Edwards Registered Member #2838 Joined: Fri Apr 30 2010, 07:55PM
Location: tehachapi, CA
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Good work dude. You will be building tesla coils before you know it. Before you rewind the primary you could run the output through a hv capacitor and get slightly better arcs. I had a small 6000v output like yours. Ran it through a 1000pf 30kv cap and it nearly doubled the arc length. It was also much louder and brighter. Just don't recommend electrolytic caps unless you want to see them go boom!
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