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cduma
Tue Aug 03 2010, 08:31PM Print
cduma Registered Member #1822 Joined: Fri Nov 21 2008, 08:04PM
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I wanted to build a setup where I would have a toggle switch I could use to select two different fan speeds for 10 fans seperatly. What is the best way to do this? They are 3 pin PC fans.
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Renesis
Tue Aug 03 2010, 09:07PM
Renesis Registered Member #2028 Joined: Mon Mar 16 2009, 08:13PM
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three simple solutions:

Switched resistor
Using two voltage rails
Potentiometer


The third wire is just for measuring the fan speed.


1280869459 2028 FT93795 Circuits


Or perhaps you could switch the fans between being wired in parallel and wired in series?
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cduma
Tue Aug 03 2010, 09:44PM
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Thanks for your help! The challange now is to find the correct resistor value. This is an excellent excuse to build a variable power supply out of an ATX PSU
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Renesis
Tue Aug 03 2010, 10:56PM
Renesis Registered Member #2028 Joined: Mon Mar 16 2009, 08:13PM
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cduma wrote ...

Thanks for your help! The challange now is to find the correct resistor value.

All you need is Ohms law.

I can vaguely remember once looking at a computer fan that was rated at 12 volts and 0,5 Watts.

So:

12V^2 / 0,5W = 288ohms

Say we want 8 volts across the fan:

8V / 288ohms = 0,028A

(12V-8V) / 0,028A = 144ohms

The resistor must then be (roughly) 144 ohms.


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cduma
Tue Aug 03 2010, 11:24PM
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Actually, the purpose of the switch is to make the PC quiter during browsing but, full power cooling when ripping DVDs or playing games. This means that I will need to measure how much current is flowing when the fan is quiet.
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HVPaul
Wed Aug 04 2010, 06:21PM
HVPaul Registered Member #2321 Joined: Fri Aug 28 2009, 05:13PM
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PC fans will stall if you underfeed them so that could have undesirable effects.
Most fans will reliably run on 7V without stalling, below that you'll have to experiment.

For best quiet PC results,

- 120mm fans @ 1200RPM max
- large CPU cooler with 120mm or greater fan

*One of my utility PCs is built like this, it's whisper quiet

OR

- PWM controller

Many new fans come with 4-pin connector, one extra pin for the PWM signal.
PWM gives you best control range and you're not underfeeding the voltage.


cduma wrote ...

Actually, the purpose of the switch is to make the PC quiter during browsing but, full power cooling when ripping DVDs or playing games. This means that I will need to measure how much current is flowing when the fan is quiet.
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Mattski
Wed Aug 04 2010, 08:34PM
Mattski Registered Member #1792 Joined: Fri Oct 31 2008, 08:12PM
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I've done the following:
1280953903 1792 FT93795 Fan Controller


The (+) side of the fan is connected to 12V, and with an SPDT you switch the (-) side to 5V of the PC power supply or ground, so the voltage difference is either 7V or 12V.

I've heard that it can cause problems with your power supply's output regulation. All I can say is that it didn't cause any apparent problems in my computer.
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radiotech
Wed Aug 04 2010, 08:54PM
radiotech Registered Member #2463 Joined: Wed Nov 11 2009, 03:49AM
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Re: switching a load from a 5 volt to a 12 volt source across two poles of a SPST switch.

10 fans, parallel !

Just a page from 'old electricians bad dream' book-

Make sure the clearances in the switch are truely able to
prevent the ark from the break of one pole from joing the ark of the make of the other pole, lest the two supplies get shorted together.

You could use a DPDT switch by connecting fans to both poles of the center terminals and the 12 volt supply to the left upper and the 5 volt to the right lower terminal.

Probably not an issue until you consider that a very tiny switch may be used.

Same applies to relay wiring.

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