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What is the largest amount of power an NST core can handle?

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Arcstarter
Sun Aug 01 2010, 12:07AM Print
Arcstarter Registered Member #1225 Joined: Sat Jan 12 2008, 01:24AM
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I have a core from a 12kv 60ma 720VA NST, plus the primary. If i where to take shunts out, how much can i expect it to output. 1.5kw? 3kw? I have no clue.

Duty cycle would be something like 50% or so over the course of 10 minutes.

I intend on making a small AC arc welder of some sort. Just for hobby use.
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Sulaiman
Sun Aug 01 2010, 06:54AM
Sulaiman Registered Member #162 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 10:25AM
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An arc welder will need some kind of ballast/current-limiting,
so keeping the shunts in may be a good option,
in which case the output would be a 'scaled' version of it's original spaecifications,
e.g. 120 V open-circuit, 6A short-circuit.

If 120 Vac is enough to start an arc then using just the primary as a ballast choke would be easier, not needing a new secondary.
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Dr. Dark Current
Sun Aug 01 2010, 09:00AM
Dr. Dark Current Registered Member #152 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 03:36PM
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I have an old NST which drew I think 320VA with the shunt in, and with it removed the input power increased to 690VA. I can run it for around 5 minutes on a jacobs ladder before the coils get hot.
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klugesmith
Sun Aug 01 2010, 03:04PM
klugesmith Registered Member #2099 Joined: Wed Apr 29 2009, 12:22AM
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Arcstarter wrote ...
I have a core from a 12kv 60ma 720VA NST, plus the primary. If i where to take shunts out, how much can i expect it to output. 1.5kw? 3kw? I have no clue.
I agree with Sulaiman, you need ballast for an arc welder so the core shunts are good. I hope you are thinking about a very small welder.

I suspect that your NST wasn't ever a 720 VA unit. The rating isn't 12 kV at 60 mA. You get 12 kV at 0 mA, 0 kV at 60 mA, or intermediate combinations. This excellent reference pegs it at 400 VA: Link2
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radiotech
Sun Aug 01 2010, 04:38PM
radiotech Registered Member #2463 Joined: Wed Nov 11 2009, 03:49AM
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While considering futures for MOTs and NSTs to be stripped, does anyone know a good way to remove the copper from the remains of windings to render it into ingot form for reuse is other non-electrical, ie non 99.997% purity? I am sure artisians would like copper at less than the market price.
edit; And while doing that, perhaps discover a way to case-harden it.
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