Welcome
Username or Email:

Password:


Missing Code




[ ]
[ ]
Online
  • Guests: 35
  • Members: 0
  • Newest Member: omjtest
  • Most ever online: 396
    Guests: 396, Members: 0 on 12 Jan : 12:51
Members Birthdays:
No birthdays today

Next birthdays
07/09 Avi (41)
07/09 Jannick Hagen (15)
07/10 Sparcz (69)
Contact
If you need assistance, please send an email to forum at 4hv dot org. To ensure your email is not marked as spam, please include the phrase "4hv help" in the subject line. You can also find assistance via IRC, at irc.shadowworld.net, room #hvcomm.
Support 4hv.org!
Donate:
4hv.org is hosted on a dedicated server. Unfortunately, this server costs and we rely on the help of site members to keep 4hv.org running. Please consider donating. We will place your name on the thanks list and you'll be helping to keep 4hv.org alive and free for everyone. Members whose names appear in red bold have donated recently. Green bold denotes those who have recently donated to keep the server carbon neutral.


Special Thanks To:
  • Aaron Holmes
  • Aaron Wheeler
  • Adam Horden
  • Alan Scrimgeour
  • Andre
  • Andrew Haynes
  • Anonymous000
  • asabase
  • Austin Weil
  • barney
  • Barry
  • Bert Hickman
  • Bill Kukowski
  • Blitzorn
  • Brandon Paradelas
  • Bruce Bowling
  • BubeeMike
  • Byong Park
  • Cesiumsponge
  • Chris F.
  • Chris Hooper
  • Corey Worthington
  • Derek Woodroffe
  • Dalus
  • Dan Strother
  • Daniel Davis
  • Daniel Uhrenholt
  • datasheetarchive
  • Dave Billington
  • Dave Marshall
  • David F.
  • Dennis Rogers
  • drelectrix
  • Dr. John Gudenas
  • Dr. Spark
  • E.TexasTesla
  • eastvoltresearch
  • Eirik Taylor
  • Erik Dyakov
  • Erlend^SE
  • Finn Hammer
  • Firebug24k
  • GalliumMan
  • Gary Peterson
  • George Slade
  • GhostNull
  • Gordon Mcknight
  • Graham Armitage
  • Grant
  • GreySoul
  • Henry H
  • IamSmooth
  • In memory of Leo Powning
  • Jacob Cash
  • James Howells
  • James Pawson
  • Jeff Greenfield
  • Jeff Thomas
  • Jesse Frost
  • Jim Mitchell
  • jlr134
  • Joe Mastroianni
  • John Forcina
  • John Oberg
  • John Willcutt
  • Jon Newcomb
  • klugesmith
  • Leslie Wright
  • Lutz Hoffman
  • Mads Barnkob
  • Martin King
  • Mats Karlsson
  • Matt Gibson
  • Matthew Guidry
  • mbd
  • Michael D'Angelo
  • Mikkel
  • mileswaldron
  • mister_rf
  • Neil Foster
  • Nick de Smith
  • Nick Soroka
  • nicklenorp
  • Nik
  • Norman Stanley
  • Patrick Coleman
  • Paul Brodie
  • Paul Jordan
  • Paul Montgomery
  • Ped
  • Peter Krogen
  • Peter Terren
  • PhilGood
  • Richard Feldman
  • Robert Bush
  • Royce Bailey
  • Scott Fusare
  • Scott Newman
  • smiffy
  • Stella
  • Steven Busic
  • Steve Conner
  • Steve Jones
  • Steve Ward
  • Sulaiman
  • Thomas Coyle
  • Thomas A. Wallace
  • Thomas W
  • Timo
  • Torch
  • Ulf Jonsson
  • vasil
  • Vaxian
  • vladi mazzilli
  • wastehl
  • Weston
  • William Kim
  • William N.
  • William Stehl
  • Wesley Venis
The aforementioned have contributed financially to the continuing triumph of 4hv.org. They are deserving of my most heartfelt thanks.
Forums
4hv.org :: Forums :: High Voltage
« Previous topic | Next topic »   

Flyback Transformers

1 2 
Move Thread LAN_403
Xplorer
Fri Jul 30 2010, 07:48AM Print
Xplorer Registered Member #2416 Joined: Sun Oct 04 2009, 04:23AM
Location: Oceanside, CA
Posts: 91
Hey guys,

I salvaged this flyback from an old TV and it has this extra transformer looking thing attached to it. Do any of you know what it is and whether or not it should be left on? Is it the HV diode?

DSC09307

Also do you have any links to a good schematics? I've built simple transistor based circuits before but I'm after some hotter sparks now.

Thanks!

-Tony
Back to top
Patrick
Fri Jul 30 2010, 08:18AM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
Location: Chico, CA. USA
Posts: 5639
thats unique, i think there are one or more diodes and atleast one cap in that extra moulded case, it coud be for pulse/waveform shaping, or a traditional CW multiplier, i dont know what you should do. i gave up on figuring out other "special" devices. i make my own transformers from the ferrite up, now largley becuase its so hard to figure out schematics and specs of salvaged stuff.
Back to top
HVgeek
Fri Jul 30 2010, 08:43AM
HVgeek Registered Member #2998 Joined: Tue Jul 13 2010, 08:34PM
Location: Swedish forests.
Posts: 26
That's odd... Never seen that before. Unless there are any additional leads to it I'd say it's a straight forward diode. If there are more hookup points than the big one on the top it it's probably a CW multiplier.

Amyhow, I don't think it's of any good use, so just crack it open and tell us what you find inside. That hould dispel the mystery. If you are gentle you might even keep the component functioning; the plastic is only structural.
Back to top
GhostNull
Fri Jul 30 2010, 12:39PM
GhostNull Registered Member #2648 Joined: Sun Jan 24 2010, 12:45PM
Location: Australia
Posts: 291
HVgeek wrote ...

Amyhow, I don't think it's of any good use, so just crack it open and tell us what you find inside. That hould dispel the mystery. If you are gentle you might even keep the component functioning; the plastic is only structural.

Somehow I don't think I would do that...

Back to top
Myke
Fri Jul 30 2010, 03:40PM
Myke Registered Member #540 Joined: Mon Feb 19 2007, 07:49PM
Location: MIT
Posts: 969
I doubt it is a CW multiplier since those require AC to function. You can see that the flyback has an internal diode because of the rod shape on the side of it. It might be a high voltage divider for screen and focus supplies? They might have made it the way they did to decrease the likelihood of surface tracking. I'm not sure though.
Back to top
radiotech
Fri Jul 30 2010, 05:45PM
radiotech Registered Member #2463 Joined: Wed Nov 11 2009, 03:49AM
Location:
Posts: 1546
It is a high voltage multiplier with focus divider. here are the typical schematics from NTE 11.
1280511943 2463 FT93525 Scan0004


edit: try going to the NTE site and entering the numbers on it.
Back to top
Sulaiman
Fri Jul 30 2010, 06:14PM
Sulaiman Registered Member #162 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 10:25AM
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 3141
Some crt have an external eht capacitor as well as the internal (wall) capacitance,
I think it's just an eht capacitor.
Back to top
Arcstarter
Fri Jul 30 2010, 07:14PM
Arcstarter Registered Member #1225 Joined: Sat Jan 12 2008, 01:24AM
Location: Beaumont, Texas, USA
Posts: 2253
I have seen different kinds of potted stuff, such as rear projection screen TV's have a box like that which is a HV splitter. The input is connected to an internal capacitor (3nf 30kv is what you will usually find), and there are 3 outputs, each connected with their own resistor.

I do not think it is a multiplier... Like Myke said, that is almost surely a DC LOPT.

My guess is that yours is just cap block tongue. Maybe a resistor too.
Back to top
Proud Mary
Fri Jul 30 2010, 07:26PM
Proud Mary Registered Member #543 Joined: Tue Feb 20 2007, 04:26PM
Location: UK
Posts: 4992
I'm sure radiotech is right, and the mystery object is a voltage multiplier module.

I looked in my junk pile to see if I could find one like it. I couldn't, but found seven other types in five minutes of rummaging, and could have found more if I'd put some effort into it. Some are doublers for black and white CRTs, but most are the triplers needed for colour. You can even see the C&W
zigzag in the bright blue one at left of centre.


1280517364 543 FT0 Tv Eht Multipliers 002 Small


These modules were the intermediate technology between EHT diode sticks like these, which you could unplug and replace when they failed, and the completely encapsulated diode split LOPT, which we all know and love today. smile


1280517387 543 FT0 Tv Eht Multipliers 003 Small
Back to top
Arcstarter
Fri Jul 30 2010, 08:55PM
Arcstarter Registered Member #1225 Joined: Sat Jan 12 2008, 01:24AM
Location: Beaumont, Texas, USA
Posts: 2253
Proud Mary wrote ...

I'm sure radiotech is right, and the mystery object is a voltage multiplier module.

I looked in my junk pile to see if I could find one like it. I couldn't, but found seven other types in five minutes of rummaging, and could have found more if I'd put some effort into it. Some are doublers for black and white CRTs, but most are the triplers needed for colour. You can even see the C&W
zigzag in the bright blue one at left of centre.


1280517364 543 FT0 Tv Eht Multipliers 002 Small


These modules were the intermediate technology between EHT diode sticks like these, which you could unplug and replace when they failed, and the completely encapsulated diode split LOPT, which we all know and love today. smile


1280517387 543 FT0 Tv Eht Multipliers 003 Small

I just geeked myself.
Back to top
1 2 

Moderator(s): Chris Russell, Noelle, Alex, Tesladownunder, Dave Marshall, Dave Billington, Bjørn, Steve Conner, Wolfram, Kizmo, Mads Barnkob

Go to:

Powered by e107 Forum System
 
Legal Information
This site is powered by e107, which is released under the GNU GPL License. All work on this site, except where otherwise noted, is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.5 License. By submitting any information to this site, you agree that anything submitted will be so licensed. Please read our Disclaimer and Policies page for information on your rights and responsibilities regarding this site.