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HazzWold 1993
Fri Jul 16 2010, 10:12AM Print
HazzWold 1993 Registered Member #2563 Joined: Mon Dec 21 2009, 10:17AM
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How does one know or tell how worthy a GM counter or tube is going to be, or does it require learning from personal experience and trying different ones. as i'm looking to buy a GM tube and make my own circuit. or buy a kit. or just a complete counter for now. Would this type be any good or have any major drawbacks?

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Sulaiman
Fri Jul 16 2010, 12:09PM
Sulaiman Registered Member #162 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 10:25AM
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Looks like an SBM20-type tube, google for specifications.
cheaper to buy a complete 'russian' geiger counter with an SBM20 in it from eBay !
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HV Enthusiast
Fri Jul 16 2010, 12:41PM
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Just keep in mind the power (voltage) requirements for these tend to be pretty hokey, so for a portable powered unit, you either have to use some strange array of batteries or some sort of power conversion circuit.
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Adam Munich
Fri Jul 16 2010, 02:42PM
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I say get a lionel, anton or victoreen cdv-700, then put a 5797 mica windowed tube on it. It's what i use and is perfect if you're not measuring anything super-radioactive.

You could also put a scintillator on that counter as well. Or you could just keep it stock. Either way it's better than that kit.
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3l3ctrici7y
Fri Jul 16 2010, 05:36PM
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Teravolt Labs;
I think the most pertinent question here is what are you doing and what do you need the radiation detection equipment to do for you relative to what you're doing.
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Conundrum
Fri Jul 16 2010, 06:31PM
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i have homemade a counter using one of those "personal alarm" pcbs with a simple zener based regulator.
worked fine for testing the tube, draws too much current for constant use though.

one idea i came up with is to use an HV825 (supertex EL driver) running on 1.5V and a simple two stage doubler on its output to the resistive divider.
Works well and is relatively unaffected by battery voltage.
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Adam Munich
Fri Jul 16 2010, 10:35PM
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3l3ctrici7y wrote ...

Teravolt Labs;
I think the most pertinent question here is what are you doing and what do you need the radiation detection equipment to do for you relative to what you're doing.


Why does he need a reason? What reason does one need a NST? Just for fun is the reason :)
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HazzWold 1993
Sat Jul 17 2010, 02:00AM
HazzWold 1993 Registered Member #2563 Joined: Mon Dec 21 2009, 10:17AM
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Grenadier wrote ...

3l3ctrici7y wrote ...

Teravolt Labs;
I think the most pertinent question here is what are you doing and what do you need the radiation detection equipment to do for you relative to what you're doing.


Why does he need a reason? What reason does one need a NST? Just for fun is the reason :)

Exactly right.
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3l3ctrici7y
Sat Jul 17 2010, 03:00AM
3l3ctrici7y Registered Member #1806 Joined: Sun Nov 09 2008, 04:58AM
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For instruments that measure invisible and lethal things.. then yes, it is quite important.
If just for fun... then sure, whatever is fine.
If doing personal safety of any kind... I'd say get better equipment.

I'm not trying to get OP to justify anything. I am merely getting at the fact that the goldmine-elec GM is not suitable for all radiation detection jobs. Since life and health is on the line, it is a pertinent question; not one that we have to answer, but one that the OP has to answer and be confident that the radiation sensing equipment is suitable for the task at hand.
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