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Splitting an IGBT halfbridge brick into 2 seperate IGBTs?

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Arcstarter
Tue Apr 20 2010, 01:30AM Print
Arcstarter Registered Member #1225 Joined: Sat Jan 12 2008, 01:24AM
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As stupid as it sounds, i still want to know if it is possible to open up a dual IGBT module and split the two halfbridge-connected IGBT's into two completely isolated IGBT's. This would obviously need some hacking up of the packaging, and the end result would be an unattractive hunk of silicon. But, is the C2/E1 internal connection connecting the two parts together, or is it a huge mass of individual busses that are impossible to access?

If i could do this, i would probably use a flattened 1/4 piece of copper pipe for the new connection (only needed if i need to use both IGBT's at the same time).

The purpose is for OLTC type of duty. I would like to parallel the two IGBTs. Or alternatively and more likely, i would use both completely isolated, with 2 separate primaries, 2 separate tank capacitors, and drive each gate separately, but identically.

I am not asking about it's practicality, but if it is possible. I have some IGBT bricks i would love to use that i got from a trade, and i have no money to buy single bricks. Also, with them in the same package, the temperature will be fairly equal on the 'two igbt's', so current sharing would be better if i paralleled.
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TwoSpoons
Wed Apr 21 2010, 04:44AM
TwoSpoons Registered Member #1621 Joined: Tue Aug 05 2008, 05:26AM
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Get it x-rayed - then you will know if it is possible, and where to cut.
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Conundrum
Wed Apr 21 2010, 07:29AM
Conundrum Registered Member #96 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:37PM
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i have some 30 gauge solder and uber hair thin mod wire here if you need it.,..
kudos to the nice guy at CES who donated some to "the cause" :)

-A
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ScotchTapeLord
Thu Apr 22 2010, 05:46AM
ScotchTapeLord Registered Member #1875 Joined: Sun Dec 21 2008, 06:36PM
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I was thinking about your dilemma, and maybe instead of rearranging them in parallel, you could use them in series with a higher voltage and a primary twice the inductance. That won't require any modification of the brick itself, as a half bridge is just two in series already!

Although, since IGBTs can't avalanche (reliably) you should probably use balancing capacitors and resistors (and maybe even TVS) in parallel with each IGBT to help with voltage sharing.

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Linas
Thu Apr 22 2010, 06:36AM
Linas Registered Member #1143 Joined: Sun Nov 25 2007, 04:55PM
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yes, you can.
Because i have bowed igbt, i can just cut some tracks, because all igbt are connected with each other with small jumpers, like 10 for one IGBT, and they are very thin, that is strange.
but you need IGBT without epoxy glue inside, just silicon
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Arcstarter
Mon Apr 26 2010, 05:52PM
Arcstarter Registered Member #1225 Joined: Sat Jan 12 2008, 01:24AM
Location: Beaumont, Texas, USA
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Thanks everyone!

I decided to rip a brick apart and inspect it a bit. I think in one of the bricks i have, i found what you would want to cut. I am not chopping this brick up, but at least i am getting an idea on how things are connected in these babies.



1272304324 1225 FT87821 Igbt Brick Internals 001

1272304324 1225 FT87821 Igbt Brick Internals 002
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