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Part Scavenger
Mon May 01 2006, 02:42AM Print
Part Scavenger Registered Member #79 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 11:35AM
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I was repairing an old Weller the other day, and I noticed that it's core was rolled. Hmmmmmmmmmm...

That got me wondering. Why don't you see that often, and why couldn't I make a big-o-hummer of a variac that way? I've been dying to try, but didn't have a core. I figured the eddy currents would set up in there or something and make the core all hot, but I don't really understand them that well. (the eddy currents)

???
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Electroholic
Mon May 01 2006, 02:57AM
Electroholic Registered Member #191 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 02:01AM
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I saw a few rolled up core in my dads hifis.
they don't have sharp corners so the stray flux lost is minimized, but the main problem for rolled up core is that they have no end, so its a lot harder/expensive to wind.
eddy currents likes to go the same way the wire is wound, little loops.
and just like EI stacks the cross section of the core is like |||||
and each plate is electrically insulated from eachother, so the eddy can only go in tiny circlse inside a single plate.
and since the area is small, the induced current is small.

As for a big variac core, hum....
where are you going to get a big strip of Si-steel?
Even if you can, just how in the world are you going to wind that perfect coil on it?
I think its impractical if not impossible, for me anyways.
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Part Scavenger
Mon May 01 2006, 03:27AM
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What would happen if I used inferior steel? Heat?
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Sulaiman
Mon May 01 2006, 10:26AM
Sulaiman Registered Member #162 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 10:25AM
Location: United Kingdom
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From memory (you could check)
Transformer strip steel is useable to about 1.8T
normal iron/steel is ok to about 1.2T.
So you would need 50% extra turns for a given voltage/frequency.
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