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Conundrum
Sat Apr 10 2010, 12:27PM Print
Conundrum Registered Member #96 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:37PM
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Old technology I know, but substantially less awkward to make than OLED and relatively easy to pattern.

I did try and make some using glow powder and ITO glass (didn't work) it seems that the Ga2O3 is the crucial component here.

not *that* hard to make if you have some gallium, electroplate onto a sheet of cleaned copper and then heat electrically in a controlled atmosphere until oxide is of a suitable thickness.

i believe you also need an insulator, which is where a suitable adhesive and binder is needed.
commercial panels use BaTiO3 as the dielectric..

EDIT:- it seems that its possible to homemake ZnS using some exotic but doable kitchen chemistry,
note that it requires handling some toxic and flammable gases so it needs to be done outside with the correct safety equipment.
Some of the needed chemicals include sulphuric acid of battery strength, zinc filings and carbon.

The good news is once the ZnS is made it is stable and easy to reuse for other projects (such as scintillation screens) and can be doped with various rare earths to change the colour.
Depositing a sufficiently fine layer for the display to work without dead spots is a whole new kettle of fish...



regards, -A
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IntraWinding
Sun Apr 11 2010, 01:52AM
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I think ZnS needs the right 'impurities' to be phosphorescent. You can make it by mixing sulphur & zinc dust and lighting it, but I have no idea if the result is phosphorescent. The mix has been used in home made rockets, although it's a strange propellant as it's product is solid rather than a gaseous.
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Conundrum
Sun Apr 11 2010, 04:12PM
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yes, the impurities include copper, various rare earths such as manganese and europium, etc.

interestingly the classic way to make ZnS probably won't work as too many impurities result in something that doesen't glow at all or weakly.
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IntraWinding
Sun Apr 11 2010, 08:20PM
IntraWinding Registered Member #2261 Joined: Mon Aug 03 2009, 01:19AM
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What's the exotic kitchen chemistry?
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