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Nicko
Fri Apr 09 2010, 08:39AM Print
Nicko Registered Member #1334 Joined: Tue Feb 19 2008, 04:37PM
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I like small DRSSTCs - my current one runs at about 220kHz.

Now, I was wondering if anyone had done any work on the 3dB points of various CT design (with the exception of Pearson/Rogowski coils).

Most CTs of standard design, even HE/MR designs, roll off at about 100kHz, though some exotics seem to go to maybe twice that, and you pay the consequential price...

I do have a few Pearsons (150/410/411) , so I could calibrate a standard CT maybe, but it seems a bit excessive... I'm really looking for a deterministic rather than a qualitative solution...

Thoughts?
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Steve Conner
Fri Apr 09 2010, 09:38AM
Steve Conner Registered Member #30 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
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Hi Nicko

They have a self-resonant frequency determined by the winding capacitance and leakage inductance, which together form a 2nd order low-pass filter. The output peaks at the resonant frequency and falls off at 12dB/octave thereafter, with an accompanying 180' phase lag.

I believe that the lower the ratio and the smaller the burden, the higher the self-resonant frequency and the better damped the peak will be.

Pearsons and some other designs have "distributed termination" that turns the whole winding into a 50 ohm transmission line. We have CTs in our lab using a similar construction, that are usable above 50MHz.
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Luca
Fri Apr 09 2010, 10:13AM
Luca Registered Member #2481 Joined: Mon Nov 23 2009, 03:07PM
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I measured the total leakage inductance in a home-made CT (25mm ferrite core, Al=5.4uH, 1:30 ratio) and I found a value of about 100nH (@100kHz)...

Given this low value, I suspect that the self resonant freq. should be much higher than 100kHz... Assuming something around 30pF as self capacitance (1pF per turn) the res. freq. would be 91MHz!

Regards,

Luca
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Steve Conner
Fri Apr 09 2010, 10:31AM
Steve Conner Registered Member #30 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
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Well, maybe the relevant inductance is the magnetizing inductance, not the leakage. I'm not sure, maybe someone else can help.
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Luca
Fri Apr 09 2010, 10:48AM
Luca Registered Member #2481 Joined: Mon Nov 23 2009, 03:07PM
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Steve McConner wrote ...

Well, maybe the relevant inductance is the magnetizing inductance, not the leakage. I'm not sure, maybe someone else can help.

Magnetizing inductance is in parallel with the load. So, the higher the better, as long as the core does not saturate...

I think that, for CT with small ratio (few tens) the limiting factor are core losses that in standard ferrites become important above some MHz...

Luca
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