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Marx Generator Huge sparks (~200.000V)

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radhoo
Tue Apr 06 2010, 09:24PM Print
radhoo Registered Member #1938 Joined: Sun Jan 25 2009, 12:44PM
Location: Romania
Posts: 701
Hi,

See my latest Marx generator (twin variant):
300x110

Construction details here:
Link2

Video (in high definition):
Link2
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quicksilver
Wed Apr 07 2010, 10:16PM
quicksilver Registered Member #1408 Joined: Fri Mar 21 2008, 03:49PM
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Quality post! It would be great in "Projects" since you obviously put some time and care into it. Which 555 driver schematic did you use?
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GhostNull
Thu Apr 08 2010, 11:55AM
GhostNull Registered Member #2648 Joined: Sun Jan 24 2010, 12:45PM
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nice, pretty spark :D
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LutzH
Fri Apr 09 2010, 08:25AM
LutzH Registered Member #1721 Joined: Sat Sept 27 2008, 08:44PM
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Thanks for Posting

Simple but elegant construction, with great results. Seeing nice fat Marx bank discharge makes me wonder how it would look if you fed a vacuum tube just like a flash X-ray tube, but with a thin Be window anode, instead of a tungsten target? Would you see a purple flash in the air from the electron beam ionizing it? Sorry to get off on that tangent, but its just been one of those bizarre thoughts which enter my mind when I see a nice Marx setup, good show :)

PS: You must be getting quite a local EMP pulse when it discharges?
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radhoo
Fri Apr 09 2010, 08:26PM
radhoo Registered Member #1938 Joined: Sun Jan 25 2009, 12:44PM
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Thanks. Maybe a MOD could move it to Projects, I wasn't sure what's the best place to post it myself.

@LutzH The EMP or some spikebacks damaged my lo-voltage powersource feeding the 555 Flyback circuit (a digital voltmeter and the variable voltage block). So it's not that safe yet, must think of some effective protection. Currently I've fixed it and using this version:
Link2

@GhostNull: thank you.

@quicksilver: the one posted here: Link2 but with an IRFP460


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radhoo
Mon Apr 19 2010, 09:01AM
radhoo Registered Member #1938 Joined: Sun Jan 25 2009, 12:44PM
Location: Romania
Posts: 701
LutzH wrote ...
how it would look if you fed a vacuum tube just like a flash X-ray tube, but with a thin Be window anode, instead of a tungsten target? Would you see a purple flash in the air from the electron beam ionizing it? Sorry to get off on that tangent, but its just been one of those bizarre thoughts which enter my mind when I see a nice Marx setup, good show :)

Taking a second thought on what you've said above, the similarity between your description and the Lenard window just hit me. See more on:

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HV Enthusiast
Mon Apr 19 2010, 01:50PM
HV Enthusiast Registered Member #15 Joined: Thu Feb 02 2006, 01:11PM
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Very nice project! Nice output arc.
Just be sure to keep sensitive equipment out of the vicinity when running, and don't run in any room where there could be alarm or heater (digital thermostat) wires running through the room. Unlike Tesla coils which don't radiate much, the discharge from a Marx can induce enormous voltages on any local conductors, especially high impedance cabling and potentially damage lots of things.
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radhoo
Mon Apr 19 2010, 05:07PM
radhoo Registered Member #1938 Joined: Sun Jan 25 2009, 12:44PM
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@EastVoltResearch thanks for the warnings!
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Patrick
Thu Apr 22 2010, 03:40AM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
Location: Chico, CA. USA
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hey RAdhoo! nice !!! but your low voltage toroidal transformer PS is still vunlerable to overvoltage spikes. and the TIP3055 is the same as the 2N3055, the die are the same but the 2n is a TO-3 case and the TIP is a TO-220 case type. OK they are the same electrically, what would improve your design regardlesss of transsistor choice isthe use of TVS diodes, then youll be bullet proof.

-Patrick
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radhoo
Thu Apr 22 2010, 09:16AM
radhoo Registered Member #1938 Joined: Sun Jan 25 2009, 12:44PM
Location: Romania
Posts: 701
hi Patrick! Thanks for the idea.

I'm already using some neon lamps, that work as a clamping device, suppressing all overvoltages above the breakdown voltage (~90V).

TVS Diodes would be much better (some can handle 1000 - 1500 W of peak power for a short time), I'll see if I can get a few.


How vulnerable is the Marx Generator itself?
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