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Victoreen 847-1 part.

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radiotech
Wed Mar 31 2010, 10:11PM Print
radiotech Registered Member #2463 Joined: Wed Nov 11 2009, 03:49AM
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Inside this ion chamber Card 847-1-2 0 this part , M1, shown. Is this an electromechanical modulator? It is a coil in a meter like structure in series with a 100 ohm resistor that seems to wave a wire
around (perhaps dipped in radioemmiter) A test tickler ?
1270073381 2463 FT0 Victoreen1
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Proud Mary
Mon Apr 05 2010, 02:12AM
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maybe it has a retractable beta shield
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radiotech
Mon Apr 05 2010, 05:46PM
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When this actuator operates it pulls on hairthin wire about 3 cm long
that looks like the end is dipped in sone silver coloured paint. This cause the end to wave forward and then back.

Here is a photo of the detector outside its case. The card cage is below the large aluminum sealed cylinder with toe insulated feed throughs, each of which terminates on a seperate card that looks identical.


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Proud Mary
Mon Apr 05 2010, 10:07PM
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The Fluke Victoreen 440RFD, an ion chamber device, has an internal, mechanically operated, check source. In the 440RFD case, the check source is intended to produce a reading of 1.2 to 1.8 mR/h under test , and I think it likely that the possible check source in your apparatus would be of the same order.

Why not just test it and see? smile
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radiotech
Tue Apr 06 2010, 12:59AM
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Powering up the 847 is a bit down the road,:There may be some parts to surface, like a meter station and alarm console. Without a schematic it takes some more analysis, I could probe the little wire with a geiger counter although whatever it emits has to get through the aluminum chamber wall. My ancient geiger has a shuttered probe
for beta and alpha. This 847 was last calibrated in 1987. The mounting on the housing looks the thing slid onto a bracket, perhaps on one side of a tank, with the source on the other side.
If it was a nuclear level guage, the outut might be a 4-20 mA loop.
Foxborough seems to link up on the net on sites mentioning 847s.

A lot of stuff arrived from Pinewa around then with this charming tag.


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Proud Mary
Tue Apr 06 2010, 07:06AM
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It seems that Victoreen model 847 is a mid to high range noble gas (133Xe, 85Kr) monitor
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