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Madgyver
Sat Apr 29 2006, 05:22PM Print
Madgyver Registered Member #177 Joined: Wed Feb 15 2006, 02:16PM
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Is their a feasible way to build a 800Mhz band receiver? Our professors use this band for their micros, and sometimes some jerks just wont shut up about last sundays soccer game and stuff like that. So it would be fun to build a receiver, that could just tune in in such moments.

Is their a relaible way to do this, or is this out of reach?
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Sulaiman
Sat Apr 29 2006, 06:07PM
Sulaiman Registered Member #162 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 10:25AM
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possibly a 'scanner' of the type used to eavesdrop on cellphones would be cheaply available?
some mods. needed for 800 MHz I guess
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Madgyver
Sat Apr 29 2006, 07:53PM
Madgyver Registered Member #177 Joined: Wed Feb 15 2006, 02:16PM
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@ Sulaiman:

With your expertise, would something like this work?

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Sulaiman
Sat Apr 29 2006, 08:57PM
Sulaiman Registered Member #162 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 10:25AM
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I'm not an amateur radio guy - some here are and may help,
I doubt that design would be much use - you may hear local transmission
(I'm guessing wildly - 10m?)
but there would be so much other stuff picked up that I doubt it would be useful.

Exactly the same circuit with a 1/4 wavelength aerial
(and possibly a tuned circuit) might work
though I've never operated at anything like 800 MHz so I'm guessing.
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Marko
Sat Apr 29 2006, 09:21PM
Marko Registered Member #89 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 02:40PM
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The thing you will mostly hear 50Hz hum with this receiver.


Basically you can build 'crappy' AM (you didn't even note what modulation you want) receiver for a wide range of frequencies by just hooking an antenna, LC, and fast, low-drop diode to an audio amplifier and you can listen to it.

When you want something more it gets a bit more complicated at 800MHz (you need some pretty fast transistors if you want HF amp, regenerative receiver etc.)

Just use some kind of amplifier, for me TDA810 worked well, make it work and then just hook it to what is described above.

You need a good antenna and diode (schottky made for the purpose or germanium) and you will hear most AM stations just by messing the LC.

I did this long ago but I didn't bother getting antenna on the roof so results weren't too good.

cheers...
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Dave Marshall
Thu May 04 2006, 11:43AM
Dave Marshall Registered Member #16 Joined: Thu Feb 02 2006, 02:22PM
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I'm not familiar with what a 'micro' is. I'm assuming its a cellular phone?

If thats the case, by US law no commercial receiver sold here is allowed to be capable of receiving the 800Mhz cellular telephone band. I dont know about Germany, but in the US the 800Mhz band is virtually obsolete, and I dont know of any new phones that are only capable of the lower band. Almost all of them are 1.2 Ghz now, and are trunked.

A receiver for this high of a frequency would not be a small undertaking. FM receiver design is a pain in the ass to begin with, much less at a frequency where a poorly designed corner on a PCB can ruin the circuit.

Dave
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Carbon_Rod
Thu May 04 2006, 12:23PM
Carbon_Rod Registered Member #65 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 06:43AM
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Dave is right about the retail units, Even the old GSM bands etc. are locked out on the import units... FCC rules...

If you are a service tech you will know how to get around this limit. However, what would be the point if you already legally own one that has no limits on this band.

Transceiver units that do not show a FCC id number are most likely not legal to run in the US.

Cheers,
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Madgyver
Thu May 04 2006, 05:48PM
Madgyver Registered Member #177 Joined: Wed Feb 15 2006, 02:16PM
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A micro is a microphone. Sorry for that, I was thinking in german and trying to type in english.

Do you think a wireless Mircophone is FM? In think of it as AM.
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Hellmark
Fri May 05 2006, 07:38AM
Hellmark Registered Member #189 Joined: Thu Feb 16 2006, 07:43PM
Location: Winfield, Missouri, USA
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Most of the wireless microphones I've seen are FM, but ya never know.

The easiest thing would be the police scanner route. I have a couple here, and they pick up all that stuff fairly easily, and arent that expensive.
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