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DC Output Flybacks in Series

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BudDog
Tue Feb 23 2010, 06:36PM Print
BudDog Registered Member #2539 Joined: Sat Dec 12 2009, 07:51PM
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Is it feasible to connect the rectified output of multiple flybacks in series for higher voltages/currents (versus a single ac flyback with voltage multiplier & associated losses)? Assuming the usual precautions for HV insulation/separation, etc.. In this application, the flybacks are identical designs, and the primaries are driven from a single source to assure that the transformers are switched in-phase.
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radiotech
Tue Feb 23 2010, 06:53PM
radiotech Registered Member #2463 Joined: Wed Nov 11 2009, 03:49AM
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Would the DC from one be outputted as + and the other as - , with the low sides connected together? Sometimes the rectifier sticks in TV flybacks is imbedded with the tranny poting.
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Sulaiman
Tue Feb 23 2010, 06:57PM
Sulaiman Registered Member #162 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 10:25AM
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Unlikely as I'd expect the secondary at the higher voltage to flash-over,
the eht terminal is designed for eht,
the other end isn't
(look at the space from eht return to other pins - surface tracking)
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hboy007
Tue Feb 23 2010, 08:31PM
hboy007 Registered Member #1667 Joined: Sat Aug 30 2008, 09:57PM
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you'll have to immerse the transformer in epoxy resin and evacuate the pot to remove the air. before doing so, build a decoupling transformer (e.g. break a toroid core in two halves, put them into a silicone tube and close the ring again using a cable tie. use 0.6mm-1.0mm wire and leave >1cm insulation path. I hope this will work with silicone, otherwise just use polystyrol or PMMA for insulation. You're doing this to be able to tie the negative HV winding terminal to one of the primary tabs.

Otherwise it may work but some of my transformers failed after some time due to internal breakdown to the other windings or the core itself
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Zeus
Tue Feb 23 2010, 09:57PM
Zeus Registered Member #2316 Joined: Tue Aug 25 2009, 03:04AM
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I have heard about connecting the EHT to the ground of the other flyback, but I don't know how well it works.
That was used with triplers.
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Conundrum
Thu Mar 04 2010, 07:21PM
Conundrum Registered Member #96 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:37PM
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last time i checked flybacks use the core as a ground, so you'd need to insulate that pretty well..

maybe use the same wire found on CCFL tube leads?

-A
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Killa-X
Fri Mar 05 2010, 03:20PM
Killa-X Registered Member #1643 Joined: Mon Aug 18 2008, 06:10PM
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I have put 3 flybacks in series, and also done 3 flybacks in parallel. all 3 where the same exact model flyback, and i never had any problems with it...I only used a 555 and single mosfet driver, so i didnt get the best of it, but it still made 5" arcs... For series i did as you'd expect. HV output to bottom of flyback, and so forth. My flybacks never had any arc issues even at the bottom, so i didnt use any oil or epoxy. However, some of my other flyback models did arc, as they were designed crappy. (30kv ones) and the ones that DIDNT arc over, are 45KV.
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