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Testing inverters/bridges

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Desmogod
Wed Apr 19 2006, 05:26AM Print
Desmogod Registered Member #139 Joined: Sat Feb 11 2006, 11:01AM
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Ho do you guys actually test that your bridges are functioning?
Throw a light bulb over it, run it at 50Hz, and feed it power 'til it lights?
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Mike
Wed Apr 19 2006, 05:49AM
Mike Registered Member #58 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:40AM
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If you mean like a Halfbridge or Fullbridge, I run it first using like a 50khz 555 on the antenna. Checking to make sure the bridge output shows 50khz, then I take off the 555, and leave of the tesla coil and power on the primary, the bridge output should show like .06khz, or whatever freq your interrupter is. Then i use a 12v 3A transformer to power for it and check heating, then put on the coil. I would use a Variac if I had one!
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ragnar
Wed Apr 19 2006, 06:09AM
ragnar Registered Member #63 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 06:18AM
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Steve Conner in his PLL guide tests his bridges first by powering them up at 3V... then at 120V with a lightbulb, then on the resonator, and so on.

Start with low volts. I haven't built a half/fullbridge ever since I worked on class-E =)
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Wilson
Wed Apr 19 2006, 09:51AM
Wilson Registered Member #78 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 11:27AM
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A quick way is to hook up a 12V halogen lamp with a series cap to the bridge's output, and apply a low voltage. The bulb will only light if your bridge is outputting AC due to the series cap
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HV Enthusiast
Wed Apr 19 2006, 11:38AM
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Well, the brute force method does work, but not the best way to test a bridge or inverter.

First you need to check all gate signals, phasing, make sure everything looks good before applying power. Then, start running the bridge at very low voltage, starting at 0 volts and slowly increasing checking for problems along the way. For a load, you can use a resistor and monitor current if you have a current probe.

Just remember, if you are testing a bridge for use in a DRSSTC or system that is designed for low duty cycle operation, the light bulb really won't light as average power will be quite low into the bulb.
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Steve Conner
Wed Apr 19 2006, 01:03PM
Steve Conner Registered Member #30 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
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I like to use the way Wilson recommended. Start at 12V with a series cap and halogen lamp as a load. Check all the waveforms with a scope. Then work up to 160 or 320v with a household light bulb and series cap, checking the waveforms as you bring the voltage up on a variac. If it's still working, throw the tesla coil onto it and cross your fingers wink

Light bulbs run as well off RF as they do off 50/60Hz, and gate drive transformers can't cope with 50/60Hz, so you should do the tests at the same frequency as you expect your tesla coil to run at.
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Desmogod
Thu Apr 20 2006, 02:20AM
Desmogod Registered Member #139 Joined: Sat Feb 11 2006, 11:01AM
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Steve Conner wrote ...

gate drive transformers can't cope with 50/60Hz

Aaaaaaaahhhhhhh, that's why! lol
It's just that I am playing with my big halfbridge bricks and needed a way of testing them without going silly.
I don't think they are going to switch fast enough for Tesla coil duty sad But they may be up to the task of "Uber flyback driver"
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