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loveHV
Thu Nov 12 2009, 08:34PM Print
loveHV Registered Member #1854 Joined: Wed Dec 10 2008, 06:09PM
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Hi, I finished making an induction heater and i was able to make some screw's glow red (brightly).

It is switching at 160kHz , 40V at 14 amps ( 560W ) I use a full bridge of IGBT's 600V 15amps.

My work coil consists of 8 turns of 16mm² wire (about 2µH) , and a capacitor of 600nF consisting of 20 30nF caps. (in parallel)

I have a series impedance of 20µH, and a DC blocking cap of 2.2 µF.

Now i want to try to upgrade my induction heater to melt some aluminum but its already drawing 14amps at 40V

How can i make it more powerfull without increasing the amperage ?
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GeordieBoy
Thu Nov 12 2009, 10:32PM
GeordieBoy Registered Member #1232 Joined: Wed Jan 16 2008, 10:53PM
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> How can i make it more powerfull without increasing the amperage ?

Increase the supply voltage instead.

Just increase the L-match inductance first so that it doesn't draw a gazillion amps when you turn up the supply voltage!

-Richie,
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loveHV
Thu Nov 12 2009, 11:08PM
loveHV Registered Member #1854 Joined: Wed Dec 10 2008, 06:09PM
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Ok thanks for the quick reply , I will try what you said wink



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Hernan
Sat Nov 14 2009, 02:30AM
Hernan Registered Member #1614 Joined: Wed Jul 30 2008, 03:08PM
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hi guys,
loveHV you'll need to use water cooled workcoil made of cooper tubing. I think that 1/4'' will be fine. thermal insulation would help a lot. I melted bronze, cooper and aluminum using small alumina crucible or graphite crucible at 1.2KW from mains.freq is about 180Khz

regards
Hernán
1258165774 1614 FT79403 100 2319
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IamSmooth
Sat Nov 14 2009, 03:30AM
IamSmooth Registered Member #190 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 12:00AM
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Hernan,

I have my coil set up for water cooling, but I have not implemented it yet. What is the benefit of cooling the work coil other than keeping it cool? Does it prevent the resonant frequency from drifting, or keep the work coil resistance low?
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Hernan
Sat Nov 14 2009, 03:45AM
Hernan Registered Member #1614 Joined: Wed Jul 30 2008, 03:08PM
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Hi Iam,
yes, the water keeps the coil resistance low to increase efficiency . also when no thermal insulation is used in the workcoil the heat radiated from the workpiece heats the cooper a lot.


regards
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loveHV
Sat Nov 14 2009, 10:38PM
loveHV Registered Member #1854 Joined: Wed Dec 10 2008, 06:09PM
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Thanks for al those tips, i now use bare copperwire but it heats in minutes.

But for watercooling, do you need destilled water ? Because won't normal water short circuit the coil trough the watertank ?

Also I have this small ceramic pot for planting, can I use this to melt the metals in ? Won't it burst ?

And I aquired 4 capacitors rated 560nF 630V 12.5A RMS from an induction heater cooking plate, can I parallel those 4 to get a lower fres without them getting hot and catching fire ?
I want to get Fres as low as possible to reduce switching losses.

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IamSmooth
Sun Nov 15 2009, 05:57AM
IamSmooth Registered Member #190 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 12:00AM
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I bought 1" x 3/16" copper rod from onlinemetals.com

My first cap bank has 20 0.047uf caps, and Fres is 141kHz. I am going to build a second using 20 0.47uf caps in order to get a Fres near 46kHz. I have soldered 1/2" copper pipe with the appropriate fittings so I can pump water through the cap bank bus bars, which attach to the work coil coil. The work coil is 3/8" refrigerator pipe. I will use a small pump to circulate water through the LC tank, cooling it.
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TheMerovingian
Mon Nov 16 2009, 08:49AM
TheMerovingian Registered Member #14 Joined: Thu Feb 02 2006, 01:04PM
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Use distilled water/ethylene glicol solution for cooling.
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Gabriel35
Sat Nov 21 2009, 02:01AM
Gabriel35 Registered Member #2310 Joined: Wed Aug 19 2009, 08:04PM
Location: Santa Catarina - Brazil
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mine draws 7,00A @ 230v
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