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IamSmooth
Wed Oct 21 2009, 12:01PM Print
IamSmooth Registered Member #190 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 12:00AM
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Is there anyplace I can find the derivation of the formula for the skin depth for current at a given frequency? The best I can do so far is find the formula.
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IntraWinding
Wed Oct 21 2009, 02:27PM
IntraWinding Registered Member #2261 Joined: Mon Aug 03 2009, 01:19AM
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Does this help?
Link2
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Dr. Slack
Wed Oct 21 2009, 02:45PM
Dr. Slack Registered Member #72 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 08:29AM
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It depends what you mean by derivation.

Intrawinding's wiki link may satisfy you, though the first equation in it giving the current density as you go down into a flat semi-infinite conductor is itself the solution of a wave equation with a boundary between metal and vacuum media. To set up and then solve the wave equation, you will need some basic degree-level electromagnetic theory and mathematics. To solve it for a finite wire rather than a flat plate, you need Bessel functions.

Are you sure you want to derive it?
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Proud Mary
Wed Oct 21 2009, 06:07PM
Proud Mary Registered Member #543 Joined: Tue Feb 20 2007, 04:26PM
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The skin depth equation is derived from the Fermi Velocity

An experiment to determine the skin depth and Fermi velocity in metals
N. P. Singh, S. C. Gupta, and B. R. Sooda)
Physics Departmen~Received 17 January 2002; accepted 11 April 2002!t, Punjabi University, Patiala 147 002, India

A simple experimental method for measuring the anomalous skin depth and Fermi velocity in metals
is presented. The skin depth is evaluated by measuring the resistance at 77 K of a thick metal wire
specimen at frequencies of 100 Hz and 0.1 MHz. The Fermi velocity is obtained by using the
theoretical expression that relates the anomalous skin depth to the Fermi velocity.

Link2
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klugesmith
Wed Oct 21 2009, 11:25PM
klugesmith Registered Member #2099 Joined: Wed Apr 29 2009, 12:22AM
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It's university textbook material.
A classic reference (which I finally bought, used, 20 years after college) is:

Fields and Waves in Communication Electronics
by Simon Ramo, John R. Whinnery, and Theodore Van Duzer.
Copyright 1965, 1984, 1994.

The theory of skin effect has not changed since then.
But an important research topic a few years ago Link2 was to quantify the effect of surface roughness in printed circuit traces. In the 1 to 10 GHz range (skin depth 2.1 to 0.66 um), current has to follow the bumps and pits which are deliberately formed to promote adhesion between layers.

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