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Bead
Wed Sept 23 2009, 05:30AM Print
Bead Registered Member #2303 Joined: Mon Aug 17 2009, 05:51AM
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I am attempting to build the circuit here: Link2

Am I wrong with thinking that pins 9 and 10 on the TL494 should NOT be both connected together like that as from what I got out of the datasheet for the IC is that they are inverted outputs from each other?

Also, when I hook up my 30v supply to the 30V point on the circuit, I get CC (constant current.) I'm not sure what else could be wrong, maybe the schematic was designed poorly? Any areas I should check first?

The 12V supply says it is drawing about 0.36A, does this seem normal?

Thanks for any help or advice with this!
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Steve Conner
Wed Sept 23 2009, 10:23AM
Steve Conner Registered Member #30 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
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I think that schematic is missing a pull-down resistor on the pins 9/10 (which should be connected together, it's not a mistake) Search the forum/archives, it's been discussed before IIRC.

I designed the original circuit, but the TL494 part was tacked on by someone else who's no longer a member.
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Dr. Dark Current
Wed Sept 23 2009, 11:38AM
Dr. Dark Current Registered Member #152 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 03:36PM
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That schematic does work, the TL494 contains some mysterious internal pull?down? resistors...

However I have found a few "chinese copies" of the circuit in PC PSU's which didn't have these pulldowns.


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Bead
Sun Sept 27 2009, 05:44AM
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Ok I think I might have found what I did wrong, should the drain on the mosfet be connected to to the voltage and source to ground?
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Dr. Slack
Mon Sept 28 2009, 09:52AM
Dr. Slack Registered Member #72 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 08:29AM
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Yes, if anybody ought to be shot for bad choice of pin names, it's the guy who named FET terminals (actually a BJT's pins are named similarly, but at least they're more unusual and don't evoke a water analogy so readily).

I always remember which way round an N channel FET goes by thinking it's *NOT* what it sounds like, source is not at the top, and drain is not in the ground.
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klugesmith
Mon Sept 28 2009, 04:59PM
klugesmith Registered Member #2099 Joined: Wed Apr 29 2009, 12:22AM
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Dr. Slack wrote ...

Yes, if anybody ought to be shot for bad choice of pin names, it's the guy who named FET terminals (actually a BJT's pins are named similarly, but at least they're more unusual and don't evoke a water analogy so readily).
The charge carriers in the semiconductor move from Source to Drain (or Emitter to Collector in BJTs).
They just happen to be negative in N-channel FETs, so their motion is opposite to the direction of conventional current.
And that's because electrical polarity conventions (and units of measurement) were well established in the
century before last, long before the discovery of electrons.

Advice to noobs who want to be EE's: get used to thinking in terms of conventional current, and don't fret about which way the electrons go. It rarely matters unless you are working with vacuum tubes/valves or electrochemistry.
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