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Arcstarter
Mon Aug 24 2009, 06:02PM Print
Arcstarter Registered Member #1225 Joined: Sat Jan 12 2008, 01:24AM
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I am trying to make a small circuit board, for connecting my computer's sound card to my scope, in a more reliable, shielded, and permanent way.

Well, this requires that i solder the coaxial cable's aluminum shielding to a circuit board. I have tried using a 30w soldering iron and a huge amount of flux, i have tried using a pencil torch with a ton of flux, and each time the solder still drops off. I have had better luck soldering to cold steel.

Is there some crazy way to get solder to stick? It there another method i should use? I am really trying to avoid terminal blocks, that would just increase capacitance or inductance and make things ugly. Though, that is my last resort.
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IamSmooth
Mon Aug 24 2009, 07:04PM
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Link2

Maybe this can help.
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Marko
Mon Aug 24 2009, 07:33PM
Marko Registered Member #89 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 02:40PM
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I never saw anyone who succeed soldering aluminum at home. Why are you making it so complicated? Just buy some copper shielded coax instead.

Marko
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IamSmooth
Mon Aug 24 2009, 08:01PM
IamSmooth Registered Member #190 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 12:00AM
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why don't you bring some of the shielding together to form a cord, crimp it with a crimp connector to some multistrand copper wire? now you can solder the wire to the board.
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Renesis
Mon Aug 24 2009, 09:40PM
Renesis Registered Member #2028 Joined: Mon Mar 16 2009, 08:13PM
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Um, i dont know if this is true for soldering, but if you are going to weld aluminium you first have to rub off the oxide layer that forms on its surface. It could be this oxide layer that is causing you trouble.

And i am sure you are aware that aluminium is an exellent heat conductor, so you will need a lot of heat.
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big5824
Mon Aug 24 2009, 11:29PM
big5824 Registered Member #1687 Joined: Tue Sept 09 2008, 08:47PM
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Iv tried soldering aluminium with soldering irons and a blowtorch, neither worked. Forming the shielding into a thread and crimping it is your best option.
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Dr. Slack
Tue Aug 25 2009, 12:23AM
Dr. Slack Registered Member #72 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 08:29AM
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Soldering aluminium is easy (relatively), or at least possible with care, just follow these two steps.

a) buy "aluminium solder", this is an alloy something like regular solder, but cored with a seriously corrosive flux
b) follow the instructions to use it - heat the alli, then touch the multicore solder to it. If you heat the solder first, the flux dissapears in an ineffectual fizz, and there's none left by the time the alli is up to temperature.

I find it's easier to make the joint in 2 steps, first "tin" the alli, then make a regular soldered joint between the tinned alli and your copper wire.

IIRC, it needs a higher temperature than regular solder, so soldering the braid of coax may not be such a good idea as it could melt the dielectric, clamping may be better.
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Proud Mary
Tue Aug 25 2009, 01:04AM
Proud Mary Registered Member #543 Joined: Tue Feb 20 2007, 04:26PM
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I agree with Dr Slack: if you buy flux-coated aluminium brazing rods, you should have no problems beyond the ceiling of your own experience. But this doesn't sit so well with your "small circuit board." Unless it's some kind of critical application, why not make your connections with nuts and bolts, or redesign the circuit till it will accept this kind of approach?
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Arcstarter
Tue Aug 25 2009, 02:59AM
Arcstarter Registered Member #1225 Joined: Sat Jan 12 2008, 01:24AM
Location: Beaumont, Texas, USA
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Nevermind, i found a way around it. Good suggestions though, i will remember this thread for future reference.
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