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Properties of different plastics

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Turkey9
Tue Jul 14 2009, 10:29PM Print
Turkey9 Registered Member #1451 Joined: Wed Apr 23 2008, 03:48AM
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So I'm still working on that project that is running in a space-like environment. I need to know what type of plastic would be best for building the body of my thruster out of. I know that VESPEL would be ideal but I don't want to spend that much money if I don't have to. The only criteria is that it needs to be low out gassing and have fairly good durability. Ease of machining and cost are also big factors. What is the name of just generic plastic that is used for structural parts?

I'm also considering using ceramics. What is the cost comparison to have custom parts made? Would alumina be the most common type?
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Bored Chemist
Wed Jul 15 2009, 09:53AM
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About the only plastics I have seen in UHV systems are PEEK, PTFE and polyimide, the rest outgas too much.
I think PEEK is probably the best bet for anything requiring mechanical strength.
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Turkey9
Fri Jul 17 2009, 04:35AM
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How is PEEK for cost? Most of my parts will be pretty simple. Largest is a .75" in thick ring, OD of 12" and a 1" height. How much to you think that would put me back ballpark?
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Bored Chemist
Fri Jul 17 2009, 11:21AM
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I don't know because I only order parts made from it as spares for equipment (and scientific equipment has a nasty mark-up).
I know it's not cheap. I think you would need to cut that ring from something like this
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and that's $910.
What's wrong with steel or aluminium?
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Turkey9
Fri Jul 17 2009, 06:25PM
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It has to be magnetically neutral and ellectrically non-conductive. The parts will briefly be in close proximity with plasma so they have to be able to handle that heat and the corrosiveness.
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MinorityCarrier
Fri Jul 17 2009, 08:45PM
MinorityCarrier Registered Member #2123 Joined: Sat May 16 2009, 03:10AM
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An alternative to PEEK would be Ardel.

Ardel is used for non-conductive chamber components in plasma etchers in the Semiconductor Mfg. Industry.
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