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modifying three phase output of generator

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IamSmooth
Wed Jul 08 2009, 04:18AM Print
IamSmooth Registered Member #190 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 12:00AM
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I was hoping I could get a theoretical answer before I do a field experiment. I have a three phase generator connected in a Star configuration. The three outputs are rectified and smoothed with a capacitor. The DC voltage output is 1.4 * 1.7 * ACsinglephase, where the 1.4 is from converting ACrms to DCpeak.

What would happen to the total output wattage if I rectified and filtered each phase separately, and then connected them in series? The voltage would be 1.4 * 3 * ACsinglephase. However, I don't know what would happen to the current.

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Carbon_Rod
Wed Jul 08 2009, 06:39AM
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IamSmooth
Wed Jul 08 2009, 04:12PM
IamSmooth Registered Member #190 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 12:00AM
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It is a nice summary of rectification, but it does not answer the question of what happens when the phases are connected as *separate* DC supplies with their own individual rectifiers and smoothing capacitor. The wiki articles shows normal 6-diode bridge rectification.
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Steve Conner
Wed Jul 08 2009, 05:47PM
Steve Conner Registered Member #30 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
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By conservation of energy, the current will be less by a factor of sqrt(3), since the voltage is greater by a factor of sqrt(3).
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Sulaiman
Wed Jul 08 2009, 06:47PM
Sulaiman Registered Member #162 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 10:25AM
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For rectifier/capacitor the result will be the same overall VA.

i.e. (1/3 Current) x (3x Voltage)

The ripple voltage will also be x3

That's my prediction.
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stop4stuff
Wed Jul 08 2009, 11:25PM
stop4stuff Registered Member #64 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 06:25AM
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you might find some of these useful

Star, Delta, and Jerry Rig Ohms
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'Jerry Rigged' ins and outs
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Star Delta Jerry
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Delta, Star, Jerry rigged?
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...and where it all started from...

Jerry's new dual rotor wind test
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IamSmooth
Thu Jul 09 2009, 04:12AM
IamSmooth Registered Member #190 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 12:00AM
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StopStuff,

This is why I had asked the question. I was actually reading about Jerry's modifications and wanted to get a perspective from this board. Thank you, anyway.

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