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Need Idea's and Tips on Rewinding MOT

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Dragon64
Fri Jun 19 2009, 06:31PM Print
Dragon64 Registered Member #1438 Joined: Sat Apr 12 2008, 12:57AM
Location: Canada
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In vain, I spend much of yesterday and a few hours today trying fruitlessly to tare the secondary out of the MOT.

So far, I lost about: 1 screwdriver, 1 Drill bit, and a little bit of dignity :(

There has to be a easier way of prying out the secondary then using a hacksaw. I tried using a carbide tip drill bit but after repeated abuse, it snapped. In trying to punch a hole to the other side of the MOT through all the windings, my screwdriver got lost in the tangle of wires. I then switched to a Dremel but it really didn't seem like it was going to cut through all that wires anytime soon.

If anyone has any suggestions for taking the secondary out of the MOT any faster, please let me know.

Thanks

S
Sss
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Billybobjoe
Fri Jun 19 2009, 07:39PM
Billybobjoe Registered Member #396 Joined: Wed Apr 19 2006, 12:55AM
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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You still may be able to salvage yours easily

The way I've always done it is to take a hacksaw with a good blade, clamp the MOT in a vice, and cut the windings flush with the surface on both sides. Then take some sort of sturdy metal rod (but not tapered like a screwdriver or awl - they will get stuck) and hammer out the windings. Once you get a few out the rest usually pop out quite easily.
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Dr. Dark Current
Fri Jun 19 2009, 09:05PM
Dr. Dark Current Registered Member #152 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 03:36PM
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Maybe a big drilling bit and drill right through the windings? tongue Then they should be easier to remove.
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GluD
Fri Jun 19 2009, 09:45PM
GluD Registered Member #1221 Joined: Wed Jan 09 2008, 06:17PM
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I cut up the weldings that kept the E & I together with a angle grinder and then just took the wires out and put some new ones in and then welded it back together. If its put back together properly it can be pretty quiet.
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Leinad
Sat Jun 20 2009, 05:26AM
Leinad Registered Member #1930 Joined: Wed Jan 14 2009, 07:36PM
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I used a chisel and a hammer to cut and remove the windings fairly easily.
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Wavetuner
Sat Jun 20 2009, 06:00AM
Wavetuner Registered Member #1500 Joined: Sat May 24 2008, 04:38PM
Location: Ojai, Ca.
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Yikes, what a mess. I use a pneumatic cutoff tool to cut the welds as mentioned a hacksaw will work too. The weld is shallow except at the corners. It should then be possible to remove the seconadry intact tapping it off with wood blocks to distribute the force. I am experimenting adding primary windings. doubling ecores and having two primaies and secondaries in one assembly. Allthread works well to pull the cores together.
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Dr. Slack
Sat Jun 20 2009, 07:09AM
Dr. Slack Registered Member #72 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 08:29AM
Location: UK St. Albans
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Cut the heater windings in the middle of the free loop, and pull them out with pliers. Then using a flat-ended rod (not screwdriver as BillyBobJoe specified), punch out the shunts. This will free up some room in the winding window. Now going back to the screwdrvier, you should be able to peel a few secondary wires into the space you've just cleared. Once the first few have gone, the rest will be easier.
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Dragon64
Mon Jun 29 2009, 12:47AM
Dragon64 Registered Member #1438 Joined: Sat Apr 12 2008, 12:57AM
Location: Canada
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I've managed to pull out the shunts and the heater windings but it the secondary still seems to be firmly in place. I noticed that there are very sturdy wax papers around where the shunts used to be and it's causing problems for me to pull the secondary out.

Here's a picture
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Dr. Slack
Mon Jun 29 2009, 07:13AM
Dr. Slack Registered Member #72 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 08:29AM
Location: UK St. Albans
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It's a process of attrition. If the shunts have gone you now have some space to work. I reckon that in a screwdriver will be harder than either wax, paper, or both together. Use it, or some other slim sharp tool, to shred / damage / worry / wear / tear the insulation around the hole left by the shunts. Eventually, the hole will get bigger. Keep it getting bigger, especially in the direction of the secondary. When you get to the secondary wires, don't stop.
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