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Cosmic Ray (Muon) detector

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Ryan Parle
Mon Jun 15 2009, 10:16PM Print
Ryan Parle Registered Member #2038 Joined: Fri Mar 20 2009, 03:39PM
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A couple of weekends ago i helped to represent my astronomy club Bristol Astronomical Society) at the Bristol Festival of Nature, as part of our display stand we were loaned a scintilating type Muon detector, which was a little black box with a round photomultiplier tube, every time a muon crossed the scintilating fibres you saw a streak of light dash across the screen.

originally we had a small webcam over the screen and displayed the image on a laptop, which was good because the laptop screen was getting quite a lot of attention, but the strikes were very hard to see due to the poor frame rate and sensitivity of the webcam.

Since then i have been thinking about finding a more "exciting" (pun intended) type of Muon detector that will wow the crowds even more than the original scintilating detector.

many of these detectors use a matrix of high voltage plates... to excite the muon particle (i think, i'm no particle pysicist!) and create a spark as it passes through.

i thought it might be a good idea to ask here if anyone has had any experience in building such a device? If the idea seems plausible i will hopefully have a few other members of the astronomical society with the skills needed to pull this off. i can easily handle the assembly of such a device, but the technical side is beyond me.
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mikeselectricstuff
Mon Jun 15 2009, 11:48PM
mikeselectricstuff Registered Member #311 Joined: Sun Mar 12 2006, 08:28PM
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google spark chambers
e.g.here
They used to have one at the London Science museum, in the nuclear energy section - last saw it a good few years ago, but you could see some pretty clear tracks as particles went through it.
Unfortunately it isn't there any more.
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Ryan Parle
Tue Jun 16 2009, 06:23PM
Ryan Parle Registered Member #2038 Joined: Fri Mar 20 2009, 03:39PM
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Thanks mike, i have done a reasonably extensive google search but didnt come up with that one. it breaks it down nice and simple to explain the basic function.

i'll keep you all posted if it gets the go ahead.
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Proud Mary
Tue Jun 16 2009, 07:06PM
Proud Mary Registered Member #543 Joined: Tue Feb 20 2007, 04:26PM
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I have made simple coincidence devices using three GM tubes and a lead plate to shield off all but cosmic rays.

You can also stack up fluorescent light tubes, and charge them by winding a widely spaced coil round the outside of each, connected to EHT.

When all of them flash at once, you can actually see the angle of a muon strike - though it must be in a darkened room, and you must be patient!

I haven't tried it with scintillator plastic and a PMT - ( because the plastic is very expensive by my standards) but obviously this is the best method, the plastic sheet having a much bigger area than even large GM tubes.

I know about multi-electrode detectors, but the engineering looks too hard by my small standards.

Here is useful paper on the three GM tube Rossi technique:

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mikeselectricstuff
Tue Jun 16 2009, 10:28PM
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In a traditional spark chamber, I wonder if you could detect the track by its ionisation of the gas instead of having seperate detectors?
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Proud Mary
Wed Jun 17 2009, 12:42AM
Proud Mary Registered Member #543 Joined: Tue Feb 20 2007, 04:26PM
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mikeselectricstuff wrote ...

In a traditional spark chamber, I wonder if you could detect the track by its ionisation of the gas instead of having seperate detectors?

I believe spark chambers were the main method of visualizing angular radiation until the 1970s - when multiple wire and drift chambers were developed.
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