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GluD
Tue May 12 2009, 08:53PM Print
GluD Registered Member #1221 Joined: Wed Jan 09 2008, 06:17PM
Location: Odense, Denmark
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Hullo

I recently recieved this rather strange lightbulb from my grandmum (she was cleaning up her house and found alot of weird things, including this lightbulb aperantly).

Its not very effiecent at producing light, at least if were talking *visible light*, it just kind of glows redish / orange, and it doesnt have a filament wire like normal bulbs, its got those spirals instead that is not electricialy connected instead. I dont think its blown because its not any thrash laying around within the bulb or any sign that its contruction as changed from what was intended.

All this got me wondering but i found myself unable to answer what the purpose of this bulb might have been. I've got very limited infomation about it, its suposed to run on 220-230volts (which is normal in denmark) and it says P5650E on the socket and "Dope" on the glass bulb itself.

So i took a couple pictures of it and figured I'd ask you lot about it: any idea what the point is with this strange lightbulb?

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Cheers

- Glood
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Steve Conner
Tue May 12 2009, 09:12PM
Steve Conner Registered Member #30 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
Location: Glasgow, Scotland
Posts: 6706
Looks like a large neon lamp. If you have a Tesla coil handy, try putting the bulb close to it.
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Dalus
Tue May 12 2009, 09:13PM
Dalus Registered Member #639 Joined: Wed Apr 11 2007, 09:09PM
Location: The Netherlands, Herkenbosch
Posts: 512
looks like an IR bulb my grandma has them too
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Sulaiman
Tue May 12 2009, 09:17PM
Sulaiman Registered Member #162 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 10:25AM
Location: United Kingdom
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Popular around the 60's and 70's were 'infra red heat lamps'
cured all sorts of ailments.
They actually do help for a (prolapsed) 'slipped' disc.
Did for me anyway.
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Dr. Dark Current
Tue May 12 2009, 09:22PM
Dr. Dark Current Registered Member #152 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 03:36PM
Location: Czech Rep.
Posts: 3384
This is a neon lamp.

The infrared bulbs actually had an underdriven filament.

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GluD
Tue May 12 2009, 09:47PM
GluD Registered Member #1221 Joined: Wed Jan 09 2008, 06:17PM
Location: Odense, Denmark
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Thanks for your kind answers folks. smile
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GeordieBoy
Tue May 12 2009, 11:25PM
GeordieBoy Registered Member #1232 Joined: Wed Jan 16 2008, 10:53PM
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Wouldn't a neon lamp require some sort of balast or at least a series resistor to limit it's current draw from 230VAC ?
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Proud Mary
Tue May 12 2009, 11:49PM
Proud Mary Registered Member #543 Joined: Tue Feb 20 2007, 04:26PM
Location: UK
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Neon bulbs of this kind were commonly used as children's nightlights and photo darkroom 'safelights'

One can also find them with glowing religious symbols - the cross for example - and glowing stars. Very inventive novelty neon bulbs containing glowing wire flowers were also produced.

Current consumption was a watt or two, and a resistor was built into the base as the neon strike voltage was much lower than the mains, even in America. This enabled the bulb to be plugged into an ordinary light socket without further complication.

A neon valve connected in series with a resistor produces a constant voltage across the gas tube, much like a zener diode, which was the basis of most high voltage regulators in the thermionic era. You will find the same with your bulb, though the voltage regulation is likely to be poor, as its electrodes were not designed for this purpose.

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Renesis
Wed May 13 2009, 03:10PM
Renesis Registered Member #2028 Joined: Mon Mar 16 2009, 08:13PM
Location: Norway
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My grandmother has one of these too, it is used as a christmas decoration. The electrode if that is the correct word, is shaped like a candle flame, and the glow is unstable and constantly moves up and down the electrode. This makes it look like a flickering candle.

Hey, i found one on youtube: Link2
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