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Solidacid
Sat May 02 2009, 11:28AM Print
Solidacid Registered Member #1430 Joined: Sun Apr 06 2008, 11:12AM
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hey there.
recently i saw an ad in the local newspaper, some guy wants a LOT of trees cut down on his property.
if i cut it, i can keep it.

i was wondering if you guys had any ideas how i can generate some electricity from burning the wood?
i was thinking something like a steam engine or maybe a heat powered pump that pump water into a water tank a few feet up and simply use a watermill.

any ideas how to do this?
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Mads Barnkob
Sat May 02 2009, 12:28PM
Mads Barnkob Registered Member #1403 Joined: Tue Mar 18 2008, 06:05PM
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steam turbine

but to be honest, i think there is more money saved in using the wood for heating water for bath or househeating.
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Proud Mary
Sat May 02 2009, 12:59PM
Proud Mary Registered Member #543 Joined: Tue Feb 20 2007, 04:26PM
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MHD - electricity from hot gases. But really an industrial process, and not something you could set up for a relatively small supply of timber.
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big5824
Sat May 02 2009, 05:35PM
big5824 Registered Member #1687 Joined: Tue Sept 09 2008, 08:47PM
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It would be much more efficient just to burn the wood in a wood burner and use that to heat your house.
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Renesis
Sat May 02 2009, 07:06PM
Renesis Registered Member #2028 Joined: Mon Mar 16 2009, 08:13PM
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but to be honest, i think there is more money saved in using the wood for heating water for bath or househeating.

As said, get a wooden stove and save some cash in the winter. Thats how i heat my house.

To turn heat directly into rotational energy, then a sterling engine would be a good choice, they are simpler and probably cheaper than steam turbines.
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aonomus
Sat May 02 2009, 08:05PM
aonomus Registered Member #1497 Joined: Thu May 22 2008, 05:24AM
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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Another option is wood gas/syngas, essentially you heat the wood to the point where it breaks down into CO, H2 and H2O, and you burn the CO gas. If you can do welding, you can build the furnace to burn syngas and pyrolyze the wood to syngas, and then pipe the syngas into a generator.

Keep in mind you will need to filter the gas otherwise you'll foul your engine with soot/tar/thick black gunk.
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Solidacid
Sat May 02 2009, 08:13PM
Solidacid Registered Member #1430 Joined: Sun Apr 06 2008, 11:12AM
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i have more than enough wood to both heat my house, sell and still have enough for several years.
i was hoping i could charge a car battery with a wood burning setup, but even lighting an LED would be nice.
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Bjørn
Sat May 02 2009, 09:50PM
Bjørn Registered Member #27 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 02:20AM
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If you make electricity you have the same amount of heat available to heat the house. You have waste heat because the conversion is not perfect, and any electricity you make is turned to heat inside the house unless you sell it.

If you only need a fairly small amount of electricity you should use a peltier element. It would by far be the simplest method. You can get normal high temperature peltiers that can be 10% efficient in converting heat flow into electricity. For example: Link2
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Coronafix
Sun May 03 2009, 09:54AM
Coronafix Registered Member #160 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 02:07AM
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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I'd mill the timber and use it to build something.
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