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Solidacid
Sat Mar 07 2009, 11:50PM Print
Solidacid Registered Member #1430 Joined: Sun Apr 06 2008, 11:12AM
Location: Ã…rhus, Denmark
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Hey everyone.
for a long time i have been experimenting with electronics and high voltage.
for the last few months i have been becoming increasingly annoyed that i can't experiment with mains voltage in my house.
im my house we don't have "breakers", we have 16 Amp fuses.
that means that every time i screw something up i have to buy a new 6$ fuse AND set the time on my alarm clock angry

so i was wondering, can i stick some wires from a mains plug to This and solder the wires coming out of it to a new mains plug?
like this:

1236469773 1430 FT0 Breaker
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Proud Mary
Sun Mar 08 2009, 12:23AM
Proud Mary Registered Member #543 Joined: Tue Feb 20 2007, 04:26PM
Location: UK
Posts: 4992
Have you thought about getting a heavy duty isolation transformer of the sort used on construction sites?

I have my entire bench, and all its instruments, tools and outlet sockets running from a 230/230 industrial transformer, so everything I do is isolated from the mains.

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Solidacid
Sun Mar 08 2009, 12:31AM
Solidacid Registered Member #1430 Joined: Sun Apr 06 2008, 11:12AM
Location: Ã…rhus, Denmark
Posts: 102
it sure sounds like a nice alternative. but if it's possible i would much rather go for the breaker,
as it's VERY cheap(about 4$) and i have no idea where to get an isolation transformer or how much it would cost.
also, in the same shop they sell USB TV receivers.
i could really use one, since i ride the train 2 hours a day :(
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ConKbot of Doom
Sun Mar 08 2009, 12:52AM
ConKbot of Doom Registered Member #509 Joined: Sat Feb 10 2007, 07:02AM
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Yes, the breaker should work, and the 10A should work well too. Fuses are typically quicker then breakers, so a 15/16A breaker wouldnt always prevent the fuse from popping, but 10A should leave plenty of headroom depending on what else is on in the circuit of course.
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Steve Conner
Sun Mar 08 2009, 08:16PM
Steve Conner Registered Member #30 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
Location: Glasgow, Scotland
Posts: 6706
Sure it'll work. Just buy an extension lead, cut it in half, and fit the breaker in the middle.
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Nik
Mon Mar 09 2009, 09:46PM
Nik Registered Member #53 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 04:31AM
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 638
I use a 20$ power bar that has an itegrated 10amp breaker in it.
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Sulaiman
Tue Mar 10 2009, 01:24PM
Sulaiman Registered Member #162 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 10:25AM
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 3140
Your minimum requirement would be met by adding quick-blow fuses in both power lines.
In uk, fuses are categorised as

T time-delay, allows a short-term overload current
(no letter) normal (a length of wire)
F fast
FF f'ing fast

To protect the normal 16A house fuses start with F10A or FF10A

Nice would be a couple of lamps/neons etc.
one across the input to indicate mains incomming power
one across the output to indicate fuses ok.

Just a quick note, a mains filament lamp in series with the mains allows low-power devices to operate normally but
the lamp will glow brightly if your circuit is faulty.
The lamp will often protect the faulty circuit
and it will always protect the mains fuses/breakers etc.
Low power lamps for small loads, high power lamps for heavier loads
and electric heater elements for high power.
Lamps and electric heaters also make good test loads.
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