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KLH
Fri Feb 06 2009, 06:38PM Print
KLH Registered Member #1819 Joined: Thu Nov 20 2008, 04:05PM
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This is my dumbest question yet.

Two days ago, I got a few crimp terminals to attach wires to the trigger terminal of my INT-A-PAK SCR. I crimped them to some wire, and it worked until the next day. One of the terminal's wires simply fell out, and the other just came out when I lifted the wire.

I used 16AWG stranded wire, and the crimp terminals were blue, meaning that they could accept 16-18AWG wire. I'm pretty sure I crimped them correctly (I inserted the strands into the terminal, then squeezed the crimp in the center with a crimping tool). Is there anything I'm doing wrong? Do you have any suggestions?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
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big5824
Fri Feb 06 2009, 07:30PM
big5824 Registered Member #1687 Joined: Tue Sept 09 2008, 08:47PM
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just solder em in, works much better
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likewhat
Fri Feb 06 2009, 07:34PM
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ya, I always cut off the blue, red, or yellow things and then solder them instead.
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Fri Feb 06 2009, 07:40PM
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To get a good crimp with an insulated terminal you need a special tool (not the $5 one that looks like a pair of pliers) that has dies in it that can fold the prongs of the terminal in so that they are essentially spring loaded down on the wire.

Or just solder them. You don't even need to remove the plastic, just hold the terminal end with a helping hand, and solder from the opening, the solder will wick in and give a very good joint. the plastic will soften, but as long as you don't get it too hot it will look just fine afterward :)
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Proud Mary
Fri Feb 06 2009, 07:42PM
Proud Mary Registered Member #543 Joined: Tue Feb 20 2007, 04:26PM
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Everyone has had crimp terminals fall off! Do the job properly, and solder 'em on! smile
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Marko
Fri Feb 06 2009, 08:50PM
Marko Registered Member #89 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 02:40PM
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killah573 wrote ...

This is my dumbest question yet.

Two days ago, I got a few crimp terminals to attach wires to the trigger terminal of my INT-A-PAK SCR. I crimped them to some wire, and it worked until the next day. One of the terminal's wires simply fell out, and the other just came out when I lifted the wire.

I used 16AWG stranded wire, and the crimp terminals were blue, meaning that they could accept 16-18AWG wire. I'm pretty sure I crimped them correctly (I inserted the strands into the terminal, then squeezed the crimp in the center with a crimping tool). Is there anything I'm doing wrong? Do you have any suggestions?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Those colored terminals aren't suitable for crimping, they should be soldered.

These Link2 are the only crimp terminals that I trust, and they require a dedicated tool for proper crimping.

Marko
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Dennis Rogers
Fri Feb 06 2009, 09:17PM
Dennis Rogers Registered Member #1837 Joined: Tue Dec 02 2008, 02:20PM
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I am an elevator constructor and I can say with certainty that a reliable connection can be made with the proper tool. You need these: Link2

I use them on a daily basis (even with the cheap sta-kon's or butt splices that my boss gives us). I've never had a problem once and i've used thousands and thousands of these things. The tool will cost you 30 bucks or so but is a huge time saver when making many connections. I use mine on red, blue and even yellow connectors.
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KLH
Fri Feb 06 2009, 10:02PM
KLH Registered Member #1819 Joined: Thu Nov 20 2008, 04:05PM
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Thanks for the advice... I think I'll skip the expensive tools and solder them in. Luckily, I just got a pair of helping hands.
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aonomus
Sat Feb 07 2009, 06:09AM
aonomus Registered Member #1497 Joined: Thu May 22 2008, 05:24AM
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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Just to chip in, I've crimped them with the 'crappy' version of a crimper with decent success, but probably because I exert a ridiculous amount of force on the crimper, and crimp in 3 spots (middle, and both ends). Again, its always good to tug on it to make sure its secure, if it slips off, just use another and solder (maybe its the wire type that is incompatible).
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Sulaiman
Sat Feb 07 2009, 05:35PM
Sulaiman Registered Member #162 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 10:25AM
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At work I use a proper (about 30 GBP) crimping tool at work and get very reliable results.
At home I 'crimp' with ordinary pliers then solder.

I think a good crimped terminal is probably more reliable than a soldered one over MANY years
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