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jrmitc
Mon Jan 05 2009, 05:48PM Print
jrmitc Registered Member #1847 Joined: Fri Dec 05 2008, 07:43PM
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I bought 400 CR2032 batteries and I'm thinking of stuffing them all into a PVC pipe and making a 1200v battery pack. I wonder how much current I can draw from so many of these things in series.

I've made a few HV battery packs before using 9v batteries, and one could draw a fat orange arc that would melt wire from a stack of 12 or so 9v batteries.
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Shaun
Mon Jan 05 2009, 05:51PM
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You will be able to draw the same current as you would with one battery. As you series them, their internal resistances add up, but so do their voltages, keeping the available current the same.

Power and voltage output increase 400 times, of course.
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Dr. Dark Current
Mon Jan 05 2009, 05:53PM
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What would be the purpose of that? If you draw arc, the batteries will discharge quickly and probably explode (by reverse voltage; I wouldn't want Li batteries to explode near me ill ) and you will lose your $$$ into nothing.

If you want arcs, get an old microwave oven or make a simple power supply yourself.


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Mads Barnkob
Mon Jan 05 2009, 06:25PM
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Link2

Hmm, waste of time and money unless you just want to say that you have done it :)
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jrmitc
Mon Jan 05 2009, 09:13PM
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I don't plan to series all of them and then short them out, of course. I feel that it will make an interesting power supply for various things that require high voltage DC.
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Backyard Skunkworks
Mon Jan 05 2009, 10:38PM
Backyard Skunkworks Registered Member #1262 Joined: Fri Jan 25 2008, 05:22AM
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IIRC CR2032s can put out about an amp or so short circuited, however this is far above their rated discharge. Link2 has a data sheet on them. CR2032s are really just rated for 3mA drain over 235mAh. I do remember some "high voltage batteries" at my local battery warehouse, they were 300V, however they looked to be just an inverter and a few cells, someone here should know more about them.

Basically, just series-parallel a bunch of NiMHs for around 12V, then invert it, run it through an MOT to get 2kV (or less if you decrease the turn ratio) and then rectify+filter. You could also use some other transformer thats less bulky for less power... This will work far better for HV supplies needing more than a few mA.

BTW Where the heck did you get all those batteries, and for how much!?
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aonomus
Tue Jan 06 2009, 12:10AM
aonomus Registered Member #1497 Joined: Thu May 22 2008, 05:24AM
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Probably an ebay deal for that many cheap lithium button batteries....

Shorting out CR2032's doesn't work out well, at best you would get the full voltage, but at a nearly unusable current.
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HV Enthusiast
Tue Jan 06 2009, 12:22AM
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Yeah, i agree. There are many other ways (BETTER WAYS) out there to get 1200V than seriesing a huge bunch of batteries together in this fashion.

You can get a 10kV high voltage supply (little resonant brick) for about $20-30 bucks which is probably a lot cheaper than 400 small batteries.

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Shaun
Tue Jan 06 2009, 12:28AM
Shaun Registered Member #690 Joined: Tue May 08 2007, 03:47AM
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Dr. GigaVolt wrote ...

You can get a 10kV high voltage supply (little resonant brick) for about $20-30 bucks which is probably a lot cheaper than 400 small batteries.
Link2 <- I have one of these; works great.
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Conundrum
Fri Jan 09 2009, 09:26PM
Conundrum Registered Member #96 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:37PM
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One thing they are handy for is making a "Franklin Clock" that will run a small mechanical bell for quite a while. Also they are handy for low current PMTs and suchlike as well as accelerating ions.

-A
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