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General purpose boost converter project.

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Chris Cristini
Fri Dec 12 2008, 10:47PM Print
Chris Cristini Registered Member #1749 Joined: Fri Oct 10 2008, 02:04AM
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I am just trying to find the right inductor core to get me to 50vdc from 12v high current I am hoping it is possible to go past 10A the boost converter is new to me my core I think will do the job it is 1/3.4 inch outer diameter 1 inch inner diameter and it is 1 inch wide powdered iron.
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TheMerovingian
Sat Dec 13 2008, 12:56AM
TheMerovingian Registered Member #14 Joined: Thu Feb 02 2006, 01:04PM
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This seems a ferrite core and will saturate without a gap. 10A 12V is way too much for core cross section, it will saturate unless you go to a ridiculously high swiching frequency. Try to find a powdered ferrite core, or a E-I ferrite core of a small transformer with internal gap, it should work ok.
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Chris Cristini
Sat Dec 13 2008, 02:36AM
Chris Cristini Registered Member #1749 Joined: Fri Oct 10 2008, 02:04AM
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Horrible picture quality I am sorry for that. Will this work. I am still learning core types and how they work.
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Dr. Dark Current
Sat Dec 13 2008, 09:08AM
Dr. Dark Current Registered Member #152 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 03:36PM
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Get a gapped ferrite core or an iron powder one.
Better still, I would use a forward converter as I believe they run more efficient.
Remember that with boost converter, the transistor turns off with maximum current flowing so the switching losses are really big.


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GeordieBoy
Sat Dec 13 2008, 01:22PM
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Get a powdered iron toroid from Micrometals. I'd recommend type-52 or type-35. The required size will depend on switching frequency, cooling provisions, ambient temperature, and whether you meant 10Amps out at 50volts or 10Amps in at 12volts.

Beware that if you want the output to be REGULATED to maintain it at 50volts in the presence of line and load variations, then you will have to deal with the control issues of the right-half-plane zero if you use a continuous-mode boost converter. For those reasons and the efficiency issues mentioned earlier, a forward derived converter might be the easier option to build.

-Richie,
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Chris Cristini
Mon Dec 15 2008, 06:36PM
Chris Cristini Registered Member #1749 Joined: Fri Oct 10 2008, 02:04AM
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GeordieBoy wrote ...

Get a powdered iron toroid from Micrometals. I'd recommend type-52 or type-35. The required size will depend on switching frequency, cooling provisions, ambient temperature, and whether you meant 10Amps out at 50volts or 10Amps in at 12volts.

Beware that if you want the output to be REGULATED to maintain it at 50volts in the presence of line and load variations, then you will have to deal with the control issues of the right-half-plane zero if you use a continuous-mode boost converter. For those reasons and the efficiency issues mentioned earlier, a forward derived converter might be the easier option to build.

-Richie,
Thank you for the information I was trying to get 10A at 50v witch I think means I have to push allot of current at 12V to get desired operation.
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Dr. Dark Current
Mon Dec 15 2008, 07:17PM
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I heard that it's best to use push-pull topology when high input current and low working voltage are needed.


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GeordieBoy
Tue Dec 16 2008, 01:11AM
GeordieBoy Registered Member #1232 Joined: Wed Jan 16 2008, 10:53PM
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> I heard that it's best to use push-pull topology when high input current and low working voltage are needed.

I'd second that. You only have a single switching device carrying the high input current at any one time, and the total input current is shared between two devices. The voltage spikes from the transformer's leakage inductance are also manageable with 100V devices when the input voltage is only 12V.
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