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Conundrum
Sun Nov 16 2008, 11:12PM Print
Conundrum Registered Member #96 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:37PM
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Hi all.

OK now this is really weird science but makes sense. On a hunch I tried to configure a piece of e-paper from the Esquire magazine so that the 51mm * 34mm piece was one solid unit then encased in Epoxy so that moisture couldn't get in.
Note, measures around 100K across paper which is unusual...

Measured with my Peak Atlas at peak black and peak white. As I expected there is indeed a difference in capacitance, from 1.900 nf fully black epaper to 1.916nf fully white.

Also evident is a more or less linear change in capacitance if I pulse it weakly so that it has intermediate levels of blackness.

I enclose my table of results. I added a series 3300pF capacitor as there are some effects on the Peak Atlas from DC offsets present on the "capacitor".

Prepared epaper by holding 9V across it for 10 seconds and taking readings at 5 second intervals.

Fully white 1.555nf 1.553nf 1.555nf 1.554nf 1.552nf

Light grey 1.560nf 1.562nf 1.560nf 1.559nf 1.558nf

Medium grey 1.558nf 1.556nf 1.556nf 1.554nf 1.554nf

Dark grey 1.563nf 1.564nf 1.562nf 1.564nf 1.560nf

Black 1.557nf 1.554nf 1.555nf 1.554nf 1.554nf


Interestingly, the earlier results do not seem to tally, could be that I was measuring a change in offset voltage as well.

Trying again with fully white at 18V and fully black at -18V gives the following results.

Fully white 1.546nf 1.545nf 1.542nf 1.540nf 1.540nf 1.539nf 1.538nf

Fully black 1.541nf 1.536nf 1.536nf 1.536nf 1.538nf 1.534nf 1.536nf

Intermediate 1.549nf 1.547nf 1.548nf 1.546nf 1.545nf 1.546nf 1.544nf

This does indeed tally in with my hypothesis that the effect is due to the microscopic particles affecting the permittivity of the dielectric, by changing its density. In addition it looks like the effect takes some time to settle, as the charges dissipate within the various layers.

For comparison, I have replaced the capacitor woth a 47pF 3kV ceramic and tried the original unaltered car display.

Fully white 18v 22.4pf 21.5pf 22.7pf 21.8pf 23.0pf mean 22.28 pf

intermediate grey 1 22.7pf 21.9pf 21.5pf 21.4pf 22.4pf mean 21.98pf

darker grey 23.7pf 24.2pf 22.1pf 21.6pf 22.1pf 22.4pf mean 22.68 pf

black 23.5pf 24.3pf 21.3pf 21.3pf 22.4pf mean 22.56 pf

10 seconds black 24.5pf 21.8pf 23.1pf 22.0pf 23.0pf 21.6pf m 22.67 pf

back to white 10 seconds 23.2pf 22.1pf 24.0pf 24.2pf 21.1pf m 22.92 pf


this might be useful to someone? who knows. Good science dictates that I publish my results and analyse them.

Please add your comments and/or feedback.
Thanks, -Andre
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rp181
Mon Nov 17 2008, 04:49AM
rp181 Registered Member #1062 Joined: Tue Oct 16 2007, 02:01AM
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Interesting, but the changes are really small. Accuracy of your meter? Might be usefull for super fine tuning...
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Conundrum
Wed Jun 17 2009, 09:48PM
Conundrum Registered Member #96 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:37PM
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hi all.. I am going to compare an unaltered "future" display as well. seems that there is also an effect with temperature..

Another idea might be to paint the "visible" side with silver paint and make this a common electrode with the back plate, as this could increase the effect and also help shield the device.

-A
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