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Making transformer bobbins

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Dr. Dark Current
Thu Oct 23 2008, 04:55PM Print
Dr. Dark Current Registered Member #152 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 03:36PM
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What would be the best (and preferrably cheap) material and glue to make bobbins for a large mains xfmr? Ideally it should be able to stand ~150C heat without deformation, and of course the material must be a good insulator.


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Backyard Skunkworks
Thu Oct 23 2008, 05:23PM
Backyard Skunkworks Registered Member #1262 Joined: Fri Jan 25 2008, 05:22AM
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Polypropylene would be ideal here, it melts at roughly 160C and has very good dielectric strength. I know the raw materials price is somewhere around a US dollar a kilo, so sheets(?) shouldn't be that expensive.

Infact I think a lot of bobbins are made of PP juding by their properties.

I doubt it will be a problem, but I'm not sure how well PP glues...
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Firefox
Thu Oct 23 2008, 06:34PM
Firefox Registered Member #1389 Joined: Thu Mar 13 2008, 12:50AM
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I read about Finn creating a pole piglet he called 'pork chop' made his bobbins using bits of circuit board with the copper cleaned off for the primary bobbins and what looks like a simple PET covered tube for the secondary bobbins. Take a look, here.
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Hazmatt_(The Underdog)
Fri Oct 24 2008, 07:52AM
Hazmatt_(The Underdog) Registered Member #135 Joined: Sat Feb 11 2006, 12:06AM
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I think mine were cambric paper. It's expensive stuff and kinda hard to find. You can find cambric tape in some electrical supply places, but it's specialized and not much demand unless you're winding transformers.
Cambric is a treated paper, basically like fiberglass cloth treated with a flexible resin.
If you need budget stuff you could buy a small can of resin and fiberglass cloth for tub repair, make a wooden mould, grease it up with vasaline and cast your bobbin that way. It'll require some trimming with a Dremmel, but that's essentially what I've done for casting.
Or you could varnish Cambric or Fish paper, maybe even heavy card stock from a paper place.
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Steve Conner
Fri Oct 24 2008, 09:51AM
Steve Conner Registered Member #30 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
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Old transformer bobbins were made of phenolic (trade names like Tufnol, Paxolin, etc) and paper, all vacuum impregnated with varnish. Newer ones are made of some fancy plastic like glass-filled nylon. They work great, but they don't smell half as good.

PP is virtually impossible to glue.
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