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High voltage linear power supply (0-400V)

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Fernando
Wed Oct 01 2008, 02:42PM Print
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Hello, im building this power supply:

ThThpix

In the simulation with PSpice the circuit works well, but when i build it i have this problem:

With out charge i set the output voltage at 100V (voltage setting input at 1.25V). When i charge the circuit with 5K, the output voltage down to 95V(aprox).

Then, with out charge i set the output voltage at 300V (voltage setting input at 3.75V). When i charge the circuit with 5K, the output voltage down to 275V (aprox).

Apparently, the regulation is not working well...

Possible solutions?

Thanks a lot

PS: Sorry for my English...
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Steve Conner
Thu Oct 02 2008, 09:32AM
Steve Conner Registered Member #30 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
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I suggest checking for oscillations with a scope.

FWIW, I built a similar power supply Link2 years ago and it's been working fine. (There is one mistake in that schematic: the foldback current limiting won't work.)
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Fernando
Thu Oct 02 2008, 12:31PM
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Thank you for your response! In the EDA forum a user suggested a series capacitor (about 1-10nF) for R4. Because the actual realimentation is a P type with low gain, with the capacitor, will be a PI type and work better.

What do you think about this?
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Steve Conner
Thu Oct 02 2008, 01:47PM
Steve Conner Registered Member #30 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
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It would certainly improve the regulation, however, it will eat into the stability margin, so a capacitive load on the output could make it oscillate.
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Fernando
Thu Oct 02 2008, 02:20PM
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I will test it and post results. The power supply is for a vacuum tube tester, the load is esentially resistive.
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Steve Conner
Fri Oct 03 2008, 09:45AM
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You're making your own curve tracer? Cool smile If so, bear in mind that the PI controller will have a longer settling time: you'll need to allow some time after each change of voltage.
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Fernando
Fri Oct 03 2008, 12:38PM
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Yes, i'm making a USB curve tracer. At the moment, I'm working in the SMPS that provide 400V for the plate and the screen and -100 for the grid. And working with these linear power supply.

I put a 2.2n capacitor and the power supply works good! smile. But i have another problem. With 0V input, i set the LM317 bias for 0V output. After, i increment a little bit the control voltage input and i have 18V output, then i increment another little bit the control voltage and the output voltage down to 10V, then i increment the voltage control input and i have a normal operation.

I have something like this (the voltages are approximated):

ThThpix
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Steve Conner
Fri Oct 03 2008, 12:52PM
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Could be a common mode issue. What power supply are you running the op-amps off, and how is it referenced to the ground rail of the circuit?
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Fernando
Fri Oct 03 2008, 01:14PM
Fernando Registered Member #1727 Joined: Wed Oct 01 2008, 02:38PM
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Sorry, the problem is not the power supply. I generate the voltage control with a resistor divider voltage, apparently the potentiometer is not working well. I measured (again, with a more precise tester range) the voltage control again, and the same curve is repeated in the input control voltage. I will buy another potentiometer and post results.

Thank you for the help smile.

PS: The current output of the power supply is about 200 mA. I'm not sure if parallelize two MOSFET for improve the power dissipation may be a problem...
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