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how to charge the 6800MFD/ 400VDC Cap?

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Gratitude
Sat Sept 20 2008, 01:42AM Print
Gratitude Registered Member #1702 Joined: Wed Sept 17 2008, 10:14PM
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Please help me to find the way to charge my 6800MFD/ 400VDC cap?
Thank you
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Myke
Sat Sept 20 2008, 02:07AM
Myke Registered Member #540 Joined: Mon Feb 19 2007, 07:49PM
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With an inverter or line voltage doubled with a light bulb in series to limit the current. With both setups you would probably want to have a volt meter on the cap so that you can see how much voltage there is and when to disconnect it so that you don't over charge anything.

Look at the next thread down called "Boost Converter 4.5VDC-330VDC"
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Gratitude
Sat Sept 20 2008, 02:32AM
Gratitude Registered Member #1702 Joined: Wed Sept 17 2008, 10:14PM
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actually i want that charged cap for my coil gun, if so, please tell me that can i charge the same cap with 4.5VDC-330VDC while i have 400VDC cap?does it make the difference or not?if yes give the scematic please
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Myke
Sat Sept 20 2008, 05:26PM
Myke Registered Member #540 Joined: Mon Feb 19 2007, 07:49PM
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400V is the max voltage you can apply to the cap (it can be overrated but I don't suggest it) so 300V or 330V is fine. Make sure you have a diode that is in reverse parallel with the cap so that you don't kill it due to reverse voltage from the coil. With 400V compared to 330V with the same cap, you get more energy out of a single cap.
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Backyard Skunkworks
Sat Sept 20 2008, 10:11PM
Backyard Skunkworks Registered Member #1262 Joined: Fri Jan 25 2008, 05:22AM
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Charging the cap to 330V will give it 370J of energy, while charging it to 400V will give it 544J. You will lose some power at the lower voltage, seeing as the energy is equal to half the voltage squared times capacitance. I'd still say to go for 330V, however you do lose power. If 330V isnt enough kick you can always make a higher voltage charger to obtain more energy.
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Gratitude
Sat Sept 20 2008, 10:52PM
Gratitude Registered Member #1702 Joined: Wed Sept 17 2008, 10:14PM
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you mean is better to change the cap or just charge the cap with the same 330 booster converter?
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Backyard Skunkworks
Sun Sept 21 2008, 01:25AM
Backyard Skunkworks Registered Member #1262 Joined: Fri Jan 25 2008, 05:22AM
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Use the 330V boost converter to start with. You might need a higher voltage if the coilgun doesnt perform right.
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Killa-X
Sun Sept 21 2008, 05:34AM
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Backyard Skunkworks wrote ...

Use the 330V boost converter to start with. You might need a higher voltage if the coilgun doesnt perform right.


This is kinda random but... Like your little signature there...So true isn't it :D
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Barry
Sun Sept 21 2008, 02:22PM
Barry Registered Member #90 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 02:44PM
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One simple way to charge a coilgun is a transformer connected to the ac mains followed by a diode rectifier. It has the advantage of being an extremely fast charging method.

Barry
I used to have a handle on life, but it broke off
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