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Transformer core made of old VHS tapes?

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Backyard Skunkworks
Tue Sept 09 2008, 05:59PM Print
Backyard Skunkworks Registered Member #1262 Joined: Fri Jan 25 2008, 05:22AM
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I read somewhere that VHS magnetic tape could be used for external iron on coilguns, which got me thinking...

Would VHS tape work as a transformer core? I guess you'd wind layers and layers of it and pot the thing in epoxy...

Can that work or not? Why?
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Fraggle
Tue Sept 09 2008, 08:35PM
Fraggle Registered Member #1526 Joined: Mon Jun 09 2008, 12:56AM
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I bet it wouldn`t work because the tape is particles of iron in a matrix and would cause rubbish coupling.

See this informative thread;

Link2

for information on the subject of permeability.
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Steve Conner
Tue Sept 09 2008, 10:07PM
Steve Conner Registered Member #30 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
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VHS tape is hard magnetic material. Once you magnetize it, it's difficult to make the magnetism go away, which is how it records things.

Transformer cores need to be soft iron, which is very easily magnetized and demagnetized, to stop them burning up from hysteresis losses. So I doubt tape would work too well. (Of course it would only take 10 minutes to bust a spool of tape out of an old VHS cassette, knock out the centre hub and wrap some wires round it to prove me wrong!)

Coilguns will work with any magnetic material because everything gets saturated to hell. If you tried to make an optimal non-saturating coilgun, you'd end up reinventing the linear motor.
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Backyard Skunkworks
Wed Sept 10 2008, 01:52AM
Backyard Skunkworks Registered Member #1262 Joined: Fri Jan 25 2008, 05:22AM
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So it might work really well for pulse transformers? Or some other application where there are large magnetic fields for short times?

I may as well try it with normal transformers anyway, while I'm at it...
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Proud Mary
Wed Sept 10 2008, 06:51AM
Proud Mary Registered Member #543 Joined: Tue Feb 20 2007, 04:26PM
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A turn or two of magnetic tape has long been a quick tweak for reducing the resonant frequency of HF coils and transformers.

As such, it acts as an external form of the dust iron core.
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ConKbot of Doom
Fri Sept 12 2008, 12:36AM
ConKbot of Doom Registered Member #509 Joined: Sat Feb 10 2007, 07:02AM
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On the external iron thing, what about using a iron filled epoxy like JB weld? chunk of JB weld is mildly ferromagnetic, and if you could pot a coil in it, would it make any difference?
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