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rp181
Mon Sept 01 2008, 12:48AM Print
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Today i started to try out a boost converter, and this is the first time ive ever used a IGBT. After i made the oscillator (it works, tested with LED), i hookedup the output signal to the IGBT. When i tried it, the LED didnt turn on, so, i switched the the + and -. Now, the LED blinks, but VERY dimly (didnt even notice it at first). The oscilator and the IGBT power supply is a regular 9v, and no resistor connected to the LED. Why is it so dim? Is this just the leakage?
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Myke
Mon Sept 01 2008, 01:57AM
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I think you would need some driver becuase the 555 can't source enough current to turn the IGBT to turn on fully. That's what I would guess.
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rp181
Mon Sept 01 2008, 02:04AM
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will a mosfet driver work for IGBT?
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Coronafix
Mon Sept 01 2008, 04:23AM
Coronafix Registered Member #160 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 02:07AM
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Yep
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uzzors2k
Mon Sept 01 2008, 02:12PM
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Considering that you can see the LED blinking the frequency should be more than low enough for the rise/fall times to be negligible. How is the LED hooked up, in series with the IBGT? Mayhap 9V isn't enough to fully turn on the IGBT, however this is unlikely. Give us the IGBT number too.
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rp181
Mon Sept 01 2008, 03:53PM
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the LED drawing power was the problem, when i switched to an enigizer battery, it worked, even better when i removed the LED. I put the inductor with it, but i keep getting the 9v battery votlage, but once it jumped to 20v
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Firefox
Mon Sept 01 2008, 04:12PM
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The nine volt battery is your problem. It just cannot source enough current to do much. You'll get a 1uF cap to about 600V, and an 80uF cap to about 60. Assuming the battery has full charge. Get a bench supply, or use a stack of AA, C, or D cells. With a boost converter, an eight pack of AAs can charge 1440uF to 240V in 30s. I assume you can draw better current from the Cs and Ds, because my AAs were roasting at the end of three charge cycles. They were hot enough to warp the metal springs holding them in the battery case.
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rp181
Mon Sept 01 2008, 04:56PM
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Update:
It turns out i didnt ground the IGBT, so it somewhat works now! I hear a humming from the inductor, The IGBT gets slightly warm (barely noticable, not on a sink). It uses a 9v for the timer, and a laptop powersupply for the IGBT. I used abounch of resistors in parrallel to current limit it. The voltage goes to 45V pretty quickly, and goes really slowly from there, im currently timing it (capacitor is 200v 680uf). Fine tuning is obviously needed.

EDIT: its been 5min 30sec, and its charged to 85V, i also get a nice shock from the output =) I need to put everything good, and not just twist wires, everytime i touch it, the frequency changes. Oddly, when i put a big ferrite core on the inductor, nothing happens.
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Dr. Dark Current
Mon Sept 01 2008, 05:29PM
Dr. Dark Current Registered Member #152 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 03:36PM
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you want to use at least 12V for gate driver, preferrably 15V.

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rp181
Mon Sept 01 2008, 07:14PM
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Ile try using the laptop power supply for both. I got it to 104v before noticing the IGBT was hot, so i disconnected it. The IGBT is now on a heatsink.

Turnout i put a wrong connection so the laptop power supply wasnt doing anything and the 9v was the main power supply =p. Now it goes to 70v in a few seconds, but no higher, so im guessing this is the peak?

To change the peak, do i just need to play with inductance and frequency? or just feed more power? The IGBT can handel 600v. 30A.
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