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Dragon64
Mon Aug 18 2008, 10:27PM Print
Dragon64 Registered Member #1438 Joined: Sat Apr 12 2008, 12:57AM
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I understand that a thermocouples are used to generate electricity when one side of two different metals are either heated or cooled. When electricity is applied to the thermocouple, one side gets warmer and the other side becomes cooler.

Im trying to build a fully operational thermoelectric cooler for various reasons but am stuck at many part of the design.

I did some reasearch about thermoelectric cooler but not much information are avaliable.

I need help with the design of the device and the material
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TwoSpoons
Mon Aug 18 2008, 10:58PM
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You will need to use semiconductors. If you use metals then the thermoelectric cooling will be completely swamped by resistive heating.
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aonomus
Mon Aug 18 2008, 11:20PM
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You'd want to find a peltier module, its a thick chip basically, it has a bunch of those junctions and transfers heat from the cold side to the hot side. You will need a big heatsink on the hot side, and a plate on the cold side to clamp the peltier. The cold side can get cold enough to form ice crystals while the hot side can get hot enough that without the heatsink, it would self-desolder.

You can typically find the peltiers online, or as big heatsink/TEC assemblies scrapped out of camping coolers typically.

Example: Link2
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Shaun
Tue Aug 19 2008, 12:17AM
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Just be aware, larger peltier modules are extremely power-hungry. I have one such peltier unit, about 2"x2", and its rated for about 20A draw at 16V.
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Dr. SSTC
Tue Aug 19 2008, 05:25AM
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i agree bwith shaun you'll probably need to make a 14v rms smps to get that sort of power
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aonomus
Tue Aug 19 2008, 06:41AM
aonomus Registered Member #1497 Joined: Thu May 22 2008, 05:24AM
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You could always try Uzzors MOT PSU ( Link2 ). He basically took a MOT, took the HV windings out and rewound some windings to give him the voltage he wanted. I'm sure that if you used big enough wire you could get 14V at an absurd amount of amperage.
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Dragon64
Tue Aug 19 2008, 06:52AM
Dragon64 Registered Member #1438 Joined: Sat Apr 12 2008, 12:57AM
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Maybe a Thermoelectric cooler is too much work.

The main purpose for my thermoelectric cooler was to create a cooler capable of freezing while being silent. The cooler was designed house my bacterial colonies for later uses.
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Fraggle
Tue Aug 19 2008, 08:43AM
Fraggle Registered Member #1526 Joined: Mon Jun 09 2008, 12:56AM
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Overclockers call this stuff `extreme cooling` and a wealth of information on heat pumps of all kinds can be found on their websites.
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Dalus
Tue Aug 19 2008, 02:21PM
Dalus Registered Member #639 Joined: Wed Apr 11 2007, 09:09PM
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Fraggle wrote ...

Overclockers call this stuff `extreme cooling` and a wealth of information on heat pumps of all kinds can be found on their websites.
Nah it isn't that extreme, dry ice cooling and liquid nitrogen cooling is extreme. And fun to play with.
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Fraggle
Tue Aug 19 2008, 07:03PM
Fraggle Registered Member #1526 Joined: Mon Jun 09 2008, 12:56AM
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I`d agree with you on the TECs but some of those mad cascades are pretty darn extreme and colder than dry ice to boot ;o)
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