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Hon1nbo
Thu Aug 14 2008, 10:27PM Print
Hon1nbo Registered Member #902 Joined: Sun Jul 15 2007, 08:17PM
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ok, this is a little weird, but here is what happened: I got an SSL certificate (free to start out) and now I am using https on an abyss server (I am comparing it to apache, which is relatively difficult to use security like ssl) and I noticed that the free version only allows EITHER http or https and not both, well like it seemed, when https was enabled, users HAVE to type in https or they cannot access the site: well, since it uses a different port (443 compared to 80) I decided to use the apache server on port 80 to inform the uninformed users (low activity, so I have time until the surge starts up)... well, it turns out I can still use my PHPBB forum on apache, without interfering (in a bad way as far as I can tell) with the https... my question is, does it sound like a good idea to leave this configuration as it is? The posts seem to transfer over (abyss and apache have the same htdocs folder, and the posts are in an mysqli database)... I do not plan to make any more changes at this point, but can anyone see any issues this will present?
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reign
Sat Aug 30 2008, 04:53PM
reign Registered Member #260 Joined: Sun Feb 26 2006, 09:51PM
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There should be no issue running the two web servers at the same time as long as they're both running on different ports. As http is port 80 and https is port 443, any http requests will go to apache and any https requests will go to abyss.

We have setups similar to this where I work for back end administration. If Apache goes down, we are still able to manage the server through thttpd (Tiny httpd) running on a separate port.
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Hon1nbo
Sat Feb 07 2009, 06:29PM
Hon1nbo Registered Member #902 Joined: Sun Jul 15 2007, 08:17PM
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now I am having another issue... a few months ago, with the complete demise of the computer the server was running on (it is funny, modern security software is allowed automatically by windows to open as many ports as it wants to "scan the computer" and it never in any way shape or form could be identified, and it itself opened was so stubborn in keeping alive the connection and keep running through all files, including the database on my webserver, that I concluded that it was malicous and just permanently disabled the network protocols... after finding out it was trend micro, which I have had no other problems with, I decided it was time anyways to switch to the linux box I put together as my server and use this computer as a linux computer, as I absolutely hate Vista and can't afford XP)...

So, I migrated my server to linux, great except my abyss setup would not function right (and since I plan to eventually put a small store on the site, I would of had to remove it eventually since it was noncommercial) therefore, I made my setup only apache, but I can't seem to get SSL to work...
on port 80, http, it runs without a hitch, but after trying to configure SSL (and I went through the mod_ssl.conf, and openssl was enabled in my php.ini but whenever I try to get it running the server will not function on either port 80 http or port 443 https...
I still don't know what to do.

currently I am running Backtrack 3, using the httpd with CGI service, in terminal mode without going into the gui... after looking online, I can't seem to find something that is significantly helpful for a Linux setup of apache
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