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Strange light emission during opening of a letter

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Mates
Tue Aug 12 2008, 06:22AM Print
Mates Registered Member #1025 Joined: Sun Sept 23 2007, 07:53PM
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Hi guys,
Yesterday I received a letter and while opening it in a dark room I noticed that the glue emits blue light when the glued pieces are pulled apart.
Do you somebody knows whether this has some purpose or it is just coincidental by-product? And also what principle of light generation is this?
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aonomus
Tue Aug 12 2008, 06:41AM
aonomus Registered Member #1497 Joined: Thu May 22 2008, 05:24AM
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The only thing that comes to mind is Link2 , but I'm not sure what the glue would do to this.
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Wolfram
Tue Aug 12 2008, 07:29AM
Wolfram Registered Member #33 Joined: Sat Feb 04 2006, 01:31PM
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aonomus wrote ...

The only thing that comes to mind is Link2 , but I'm not sure what the glue would do to this.

Close but no cigar. Link2


Anders M.
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Avi
Tue Aug 12 2008, 08:11AM
Avi Registered Member #580 Joined: Mon Mar 12 2007, 03:17PM
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Ive seen it too when opening a bandaid (the paper package each one is stored in i think it was)
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Mates
Tue Aug 12 2008, 09:44AM
Mates Registered Member #1025 Joined: Sun Sept 23 2007, 07:53PM
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Thanks Anders, I knew this is the right place to ask... wink Et least I learned a new word - Triboluminescence
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Mads Barnkob
Tue Aug 12 2008, 03:17PM
Mads Barnkob Registered Member #1403 Joined: Tue Mar 18 2008, 06:05PM
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I had forgot about this, but also noticed it when opening the mail in the dark if i dont get to turn on the light first, thanks for bringing it up and for the solution :)

At first I thought it was a safety thing so you could see if a letter had been opened, but since it can be done multiply times I dropped that again.
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Conundrum
Fri Aug 15 2008, 06:44PM
Conundrum Registered Member #96 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:37PM
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Saw an article about this on "New Scientist" Last Word a while ago

-A
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Alessandro
Sun Aug 17 2008, 12:28AM
Alessandro Registered Member #70 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 08:19AM
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You can also observe the same effect when peeling tape off a roll.
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Proud Mary
Sun Aug 17 2008, 09:01AM
Proud Mary Registered Member #543 Joined: Tue Feb 20 2007, 04:26PM
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When you strike two milk quartz beach pebbles together in the dark, they glow momentarily at the points of impact. It does seem to work best when you strike glancing 'friction' blows, but thought the materials had to be of different electronegative materials to produce triboelectricity. Is this glowing after percussion perhaps due of the piezoelectric effect, I wonder, or some other effect?
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Seoul_lasers
Wed Aug 20 2008, 04:22PM
Seoul_lasers Registered Member #1630 Joined: Sat Aug 09 2008, 11:36AM
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It is triboelectric/triboluminescent effect with the glue, same situation with the tape. Acetate overhead sheets are really an amazing Triboluminescent material!!
fractolumienscent/Piezoelectric effect is with quartz or crystalline materials
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