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Registered Member #1571
Joined: Wed Jul 02 2008, 03:26AM
Location: Bendigo Victoria Australia
Posts: 44
Hey there,
This is the first project that I am placing here and to be honest I am a babe in the woods with respect to electronics. I am getting better but there has been no bolt of lightning to make it all understandable.
My interest is ultra high voltage. So from "whats a capacitor" to having to understand the basics of V= IR etc and just talking to people and doing a LOT of reading I have started to understand.
This project is part of a much larger and time consuming project.
It was pointed out that I really needed to make sure that my diodes in each string for a Cockcroft Walton Multiplier must be similar. If one leaked more than the others then I might end up with a firey outcome and lots of money down the drain. That was the start of this project.
OK, the first thing was to have a chat with my good friend and electronics genuis Andrew Pullin. In a day he knocked up this design for me to test the leakage of diodes.
One of the things I found using the breadboard was there was too much fluctuation. So Andrew spent another hour putting the components into a tin. This RF shielded the system and as long as temperature was stable I could sort out the diodes according to their leakage.
I ended up with diodes being in different piles
The circuit consisted of the following:
1. A calibration section. I needed to know I had approximately 1 nano Amp going through the system so I could set my meter. To do this I used a voltage divider to obtain 100mV via 220k/1k8 divider. This was then fed into the system which has a 100Megohm resistor to provide another resistive divider network. The signal out of this divider network was DC and around 1nano Amp.
2. This was fed into a buffer using an LF353 opamp.
3. This was then fed via a couple of reisistors and capacitor decoupling to an op amp inverting amplifier using another LF353 (the other half). it was then fed into a resistor, a pot and then, as a negative value, into the negative end of my meter which has Full Scale Deflection of 50mAmps.
I can use the pot to adjust the 1 nano amp deflection to a desired swing and if the diode leakage where to be say 2 nano amps then the deflection will be twice the 1 nano amp deflection.
The important thing is not so much the value of the leakage but leakeage in relation to the other diodes.
Once I had this I could pick my diodes for each string and be fairly confident I didn't have a dodgy diode in the string.
For power to the diode, I used a Cockcroft Walton Multiplier from an old xray machine that Andrew had junked. this supplied approximately just under 15Kvolts out for 24 volts in. Once set I had to run through all the diodes in one go so nothing changed including ambient temperature. Andrew has said you might want to find a power supply from an old photocopier.
I also used one of my large capacitors at the output of my small Cockcroft Walton Mulitplier.
Here is the schematic of the system. This works in LTSpice and I would be happy to email the file to those that need it. I couldnt find a place to save the file on this site and I dont have a website myself unfortunately.
Anyway thats it. Hope this helps others if they want to test diodes. Hey maybe you can improve.
Again A big thanks goes to Andrew for this as with out him I would still be struggling with the most basic principles!!
Registered Member #30
Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
Location: Glasgow, Scotland
Posts: 6706
We take files with a .zip extension, so just zip your stuff. Also, with avalanche rated diodes, there's arguably no point in sorting them, as they distribute the voltage evenly by avalanching.
Registered Member #1571
Joined: Wed Jul 02 2008, 03:26AM
Location: Bendigo Victoria Australia
Posts: 44
Sorry, I should have considered the option of a zip file.
If you want to see this work, then you will first have to have LTSpice which you can download for free here... LTSpice
By the way there is a Yahoo group for LTSpice that is really very good.
Once you have installed LTSpice then download the zip file, save it to your computer and then unzip.
]diode_tester.zip[/file]
It should run OK.
As for avalanche diodes, I have to be honest and say I only just realised these were an option recently. Unfortunately I have no way of knowing whether the diodes I have are Avalanche as I have a scant datasheet ]2clg1020015.2clg1020020.pdf[/file] and I purchased them from China. The company Tjsemi it appears is massive and while I got samples in this case they really deal in very large quantities and I think wont return my emails unless I am a now a company...
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